Comments on: Atheism, Politics and Friends http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/10/atheism-politics-and-friends/ Skeptical Freethought Atheist Musings to Dispel Ignorance and Enlighten the Mind Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:21:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Fruitloop http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/10/atheism-politics-and-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-29 Fruitloop Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:49:24 +0000 http://www.believersanonymous.com/?p=213#comment-29 Ah, thanks for clarifying FL. I misunderstood. Yeah, if you're not a "good" christian, I think you're in trouble, and I agree, it will only get worse. Thanks again! Ah, thanks for clarifying FL. I misunderstood. Yeah, if you’re not a “good” christian, I think you’re in trouble, and I agree, it will only get worse. Thanks again!

]]> By: FeebleLance http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/10/atheism-politics-and-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-28 FeebleLance Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:35:38 +0000 http://www.believersanonymous.com/?p=213#comment-28 Oh, I didn't mean a revolt of any sort. More just a massive shift in the way the teeming mass thinks and accepts what is and isn't good for everyone else. Basically I feel it's going to get a lot harder for those of us that don't share "good christian values". Oh, I didn’t mean a revolt of any sort. More just a massive shift in the way the teeming mass thinks and accepts what is and isn’t good for everyone else.

Basically I feel it’s going to get a lot harder for those of us that don’t share “good christian values”.

]]> By: Fruitloop http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/10/atheism-politics-and-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Fruitloop Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:12:07 +0000 http://www.believersanonymous.com/?p=213#comment-27 Samuel, thank you for your comment. Well, from your definition of a dark age, I respectfully think that we are already in the early stages of it. Maybe we're in the Gloaming Ages. Literacy is quickly sinking into the muck, and society is slowly drowning in its own ignorance and apathy. While we are still on a huge curve of technology advancing, in some areas the government and the sheeple that support it are trying to take away progress. Stem cell research is a prime example. I think the awful things you describe as what we could possibly see are already mostly already happening to some degree. What more evidence is needed that these are dark days and the light, while not being snuffed out, is certainly being dimmed a great deal? I don't know about suddenly seeing the truth. Because when I was younger, I had more rights than I do today. I feel that things are definitely much worse than they were a decade ago. The desire for cultivated ignorance is getting stronger every day, and if that's not a sign that we have serious issues that need serious repairs, well, then, I just don't know what it will take to "shine the light", so to speak, on the problem. Thanks again for your comment. I appreciate it and have learned from it and will think about it even more. Samuel, thank you for your comment.
Well, from your definition of a dark age, I respectfully think that we are already in the early stages of it. Maybe we’re in the Gloaming Ages. Literacy is quickly sinking into the muck, and society is slowly drowning in its own ignorance and apathy. While we are still on a huge curve of technology advancing, in some areas the government and the sheeple that support it are trying to take away progress. Stem cell research is a prime example.
I think the awful things you describe as what we could possibly see are already mostly already happening to some degree. What more evidence is needed that these are dark days and the light, while not being snuffed out, is certainly being dimmed a great deal?
I don’t know about suddenly seeing the truth. Because when I was younger, I had more rights than I do today. I feel that things are definitely much worse than they were a decade ago. The desire for cultivated ignorance is getting stronger every day, and if that’s not a sign that we have serious issues that need serious repairs, well, then, I just don’t know what it will take to “shine the light”, so to speak, on the problem.
Thanks again for your comment. I appreciate it and have learned from it and will think about it even more.

]]> By: Fruitloop http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/10/atheism-politics-and-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Fruitloop Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:53:35 +0000 http://www.believersanonymous.com/?p=213#comment-26 Feeble Lance, thanks for the comment. Yes, you're right, I would agree that in America, if you're not a "good christian" then you're not as good of a person as they "supposedly" are. I don't know about the next 10 years, but I can't totally disagree with you. I really don't think Americans today would even consider a revolt. They don't have that kind of constitution. We're a nation of whiners, not active in more than complaining and changing the channel. Yeah, hopefully everyone else thinks we're insane. But over in Europe they have their own religious problems, if I'm not mistaken. Feeble Lance, thanks for the comment. Yes, you’re right, I would agree that in America, if you’re not a “good christian” then you’re not as good of a person as they “supposedly” are.
I don’t know about the next 10 years, but I can’t totally disagree with you. I really don’t think Americans today would even consider a revolt. They don’t have that kind of constitution. We’re a nation of whiners, not active in more than complaining and changing the channel.
Yeah, hopefully everyone else thinks we’re insane. But over in Europe they have their own religious problems, if I’m not mistaken.

]]> By: Samuel Skinner http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/10/atheism-politics-and-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-25 Samuel Skinner Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:55:51 +0000 http://www.believersanonymous.com/?p=213#comment-25 Technically, no. A dark age is where technology regresses, literacy is lost and society as a whole breaks down. There have been several instances of that happening- the Greek dark ages, Cambodian dark ages and, of course, the middle ages. These are unlikely to happen again- they require outside intervention and complete social breakdown. What is more likely is what happened in the post war era- a breakdown in social control, private armies, torture, fanatical utopian ideologies, warfare and more. Although these seem to suddenly appear, they were always there- simply hidden under the surface. The light isn't being snuffed out- it was surrounded by darkness the whole time. We simply stared at the light and couldn't see the darkness. Now things have interposed an we see the truth. I doubt we will get a repeat of the post war period, but here in the states at least, people seem dedicated to ignorance and "it can't happen here". I don't think facism will gain control, but honestly it is impossible to make an estimate. When in doubt remember the white rose. Technically, no. A dark age is where technology regresses, literacy is lost and society as a whole breaks down. There have been several instances of that happening- the Greek dark ages, Cambodian dark ages and, of course, the middle ages.

These are unlikely to happen again- they require outside intervention and complete social breakdown.

What is more likely is what happened in the post war era- a breakdown in social control, private armies, torture, fanatical utopian ideologies, warfare and more. Although these seem to suddenly appear, they were always there- simply hidden under the surface.

The light isn’t being snuffed out- it was surrounded by darkness the whole time. We simply stared at the light and couldn’t see the darkness. Now things have interposed an we see the truth.

I doubt we will get a repeat of the post war period, but here in the states at least, people seem dedicated to ignorance and “it can’t happen here”. I don’t think facism will gain control, but honestly it is impossible to make an estimate. When in doubt remember the white rose.

]]> By: FeebleLance http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/10/atheism-politics-and-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-24 FeebleLance Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:34:08 +0000 http://www.believersanonymous.com/?p=213#comment-24 I see where you're coming from and agree. The state of affairs here are quite scary for an atheist, perhaps any non christian for that matter. I'm guessing that things will hit a serious turning point, for better or worse, in the next decade...I'm not saying some sort of revolution, hardly, but a massive government supported paradigm shift that will really start to tear away at the country. Peoples in Europe and abroad must think this country is completely insane. I see where you’re coming from and agree. The state of affairs here are quite scary for an atheist, perhaps any non christian for that matter.

I’m guessing that things will hit a serious turning point, for better or worse, in the next decade…I’m not saying some sort of revolution, hardly, but a massive government supported paradigm shift that will really start to tear away at the country.

Peoples in Europe and abroad must think this country is completely insane.

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