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		<title>By: Neece</title>
		<link>http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/12/02/christian-proselytizer-questionnaire/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again, Dickie Maxx. I am not sure what I think about this comment.

I&#039;m don&#039;t consider myself a humanist so maybe I&#039;m not the best person to reply. But for me personally, I go out of my way to learn and grow. Just because I&#039;m an atheist and a skeptic, that doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t learn and take in new information on topics that I previously thought I understood. In fact as I near my 40th birthday, I realize I know very little in most areas and have much to learn in just about everything. So I still listen to arguments given for all kinds of things.

Unfortunately I&#039;ve yet to hear anything original by anyone when it comes to religion or any kind of god. 

Since I was quite religious as a child, I feel I&#039;ve grown up and educated myself to be able to shed religion and faith. Why would I re-embrace ignorance and fear-driven submission to men and an invisible man in the sky again?

That&#039;s not to say that I wouldn&#039;t be quite interested to have someone answer every one of these questions honestly and accurately. That would make things very interesting to say the least. But from my personal experience, and from everything I&#039;ve learned over the years, there just is not a single speck of proof for a god.

So, giving a religious person the chance to convert me? They do it nearly every day. 

Wouldn&#039;t it be neat if religious people would be thoughtful enough to give someone a chance to DE-convert them? :P 

Also, this seems to imply that humanists deny any attempt to accept information that doesn&#039;t agree with them? Perhaps I&#039;m just reading into the sentence though. 

I welcome any further thoughts. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again, Dickie Maxx. I am not sure what I think about this comment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m don&#8217;t consider myself a humanist so maybe I&#8217;m not the best person to reply. But for me personally, I go out of my way to learn and grow. Just because I&#8217;m an atheist and a skeptic, that doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t learn and take in new information on topics that I previously thought I understood. In fact as I near my 40th birthday, I realize I know very little in most areas and have much to learn in just about everything. So I still listen to arguments given for all kinds of things.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I&#8217;ve yet to hear anything original by anyone when it comes to religion or any kind of god. </p>
<p>Since I was quite religious as a child, I feel I&#8217;ve grown up and educated myself to be able to shed religion and faith. Why would I re-embrace ignorance and fear-driven submission to men and an invisible man in the sky again?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that I wouldn&#8217;t be quite interested to have someone answer every one of these questions honestly and accurately. That would make things very interesting to say the least. But from my personal experience, and from everything I&#8217;ve learned over the years, there just is not a single speck of proof for a god.</p>
<p>So, giving a religious person the chance to convert me? They do it nearly every day. </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be neat if religious people would be thoughtful enough to give someone a chance to DE-convert them? <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Also, this seems to imply that humanists deny any attempt to accept information that doesn&#8217;t agree with them? Perhaps I&#8217;m just reading into the sentence though. </p>
<p>I welcome any further thoughts. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GMNightmare</title>
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		<dc:creator>GMNightmare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zar, you are incorrect in your analysis.  Rape, was NOT legal back them.  Indeed, it was outlawed to even rape a slave.  Rape, was not common--and that is the whole bloody point.  I&#039;d really like to hear where you get the information for &quot;what you can tell&quot;.  The reason being is that the culture was very, very promiscuous.  When you can get sex whenever you want... then you aren&#039;t going to go out and rape somebody because you haven&#039;t gotten any lately.  Sex, was everywhere back then.

You are also not completely aware of the pederasty of ancient Greece.  First off, copulation with the young was seen as something barbaric and shameful.  And even then, it was rarely anal penetration--it was typically femoral.  But I fail to see how this relates to the overall numbers of sex crimes.  Rape was still outlawed after all.

A more accurate quibble would be over population.  Lower population typically equates to less crime.  But even adjusting for percentage, it&#039;s still much lower.  Now the sex trade back then was of course vast, but going more into that makes a bigger point of how corrupt the biblical world was.  If you wanted to argue the point, you&#039;d have to argue the effects of the sex trade... which, behold, would benefit the original point against Christians anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zar, you are incorrect in your analysis.  Rape, was NOT legal back them.  Indeed, it was outlawed to even rape a slave.  Rape, was not common&#8211;and that is the whole bloody point.  I&#8217;d really like to hear where you get the information for &#8220;what you can tell&#8221;.  The reason being is that the culture was very, very promiscuous.  When you can get sex whenever you want&#8230; then you aren&#8217;t going to go out and rape somebody because you haven&#8217;t gotten any lately.  Sex, was everywhere back then.</p>
<p>You are also not completely aware of the pederasty of ancient Greece.  First off, copulation with the young was seen as something barbaric and shameful.  And even then, it was rarely anal penetration&#8211;it was typically femoral.  But I fail to see how this relates to the overall numbers of sex crimes.  Rape was still outlawed after all.</p>
<p>A more accurate quibble would be over population.  Lower population typically equates to less crime.  But even adjusting for percentage, it&#8217;s still much lower.  Now the sex trade back then was of course vast, but going more into that makes a bigger point of how corrupt the biblical world was.  If you wanted to argue the point, you&#8217;d have to argue the effects of the sex trade&#8230; which, behold, would benefit the original point against Christians anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Dickie Maxx</title>
		<link>http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/12/02/christian-proselytizer-questionnaire/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>Dickie Maxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be very generous for any humanist to actually give someone that chance to convert them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be very generous for any humanist to actually give someone that chance to convert them.</p>
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		<title>By: Neece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be interesting! I wonder what happened to it? It would be neat to see what they came up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be interesting! I wonder what happened to it? It would be neat to see what they came up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Zar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s been floating around on the internet for some time now.  I like it.

I do have a little quibble with it, though, relating to sex crimes in Ancient Greece.  There were fewer sex crimes because a lot of stuff that we consider awful was legal back then, including rape and pederasty.  Rape, from what I can tell, was really common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s been floating around on the internet for some time now.  I like it.</p>
<p>I do have a little quibble with it, though, relating to sex crimes in Ancient Greece.  There were fewer sex crimes because a lot of stuff that we consider awful was legal back then, including rape and pederasty.  Rape, from what I can tell, was really common.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to participate on a (now defunct) forum that went through this list one by one. It was interesting, especially when the participating Christians were of very different sects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to participate on a (now defunct) forum that went through this list one by one. It was interesting, especially when the participating Christians were of very different sects.</p>
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