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	<title>Comments on: Conversations With christians &#8211; Beth 2 &#8211; Down The Rabbit Hole</title>
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		<title>By: Neece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Johnny. :D
I&#039;ll have to ask her more about where she is and where she&#039;s come from on her spiritual journey. Although I have a feeling I won&#039;t hear from her again since this last exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Johnny. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ll have to ask her more about where she is and where she&#8217;s come from on her spiritual journey. Although I have a feeling I won&#8217;t hear from her again since this last exchange.</p>
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		<title>By: Neece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, Eric. :) Exactly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, Eric. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: Neece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a pamphlet. HA! LOL!  Nice analogy too. :) Thanks Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a pamphlet. HA! LOL!  Nice analogy too. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Neece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve. Yeah. That&#039;s a great description.. Pandora&#039;s Box. I like that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve. Yeah. That&#8217;s a great description.. Pandora&#8217;s Box. I like that. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric. Well, I don&#039;t know. I think most self help books are pretty vapid and downright unhelpful. There are a lot of great books out there that I&#039;ve gotten wisdom out of, and none of them were religious. So I agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric. Well, I don&#8217;t know. I think most self help books are pretty vapid and downright unhelpful. There are a lot of great books out there that I&#8217;ve gotten wisdom out of, and none of them were religious. So I agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cherry-picking demonstrates a good point: if you&#039;re choosing, you have some criteria for choice. Those criteria can&#039;t come from that from which you&#039;re cherry-picking - therefore your decision on what&#039;s moral or &quot;god-inspired&quot; and what&#039;s not is based on something outside that which you claim to be the word of god. Therefore, your morals aren&#039;t based on the Bible, but on your own brain. 

The claim that morals &quot;come from&quot; God is harder to dispel, but it&#039;s easy to make the argument that they don&#039;t &quot;come from&quot; the book. Another easy point to make: &quot;So you&#039;re telling me that if it weren&#039;t for that book there you&#039;d be stealing, murdering, lying, pillaging, etc? Stay away from me, nutbag.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cherry-picking demonstrates a good point: if you&#8217;re choosing, you have some criteria for choice. Those criteria can&#8217;t come from that from which you&#8217;re cherry-picking &#8211; therefore your decision on what&#8217;s moral or &#8220;god-inspired&#8221; and what&#8217;s not is based on something outside that which you claim to be the word of god. Therefore, your morals aren&#8217;t based on the Bible, but on your own brain. </p>
<p>The claim that morals &#8220;come from&#8221; God is harder to dispel, but it&#8217;s easy to make the argument that they don&#8217;t &#8220;come from&#8221; the book. Another easy point to make: &#8220;So you&#8217;re telling me that if it weren&#8217;t for that book there you&#8217;d be stealing, murdering, lying, pillaging, etc? Stay away from me, nutbag.&#8221;</p>
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