Comments on: Your Tax Dollars Teaching Medical Students Pseudoscience http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/04/your-tax-dollars-teaching-medical-students-pseudoscience/ Skeptical Freethought Atheist Musings to Dispel Ignorance and Enlighten the Mind Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:02:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Neece http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/04/your-tax-dollars-teaching-medical-students-pseudoscience/comment-page-1/#comment-4637 Neece Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:29:44 +0000 http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/?p=2205#comment-4637 I understand what you're saying, but I wonder where you got your numbers. The mind is incredibly powerful, as can be seen with the placebo effect time and time again. But I think if you did a double blind of someone getting cancer treatment and someone getting nothing except the same symptoms, one would show that the cancer gets under control and the other would show a person about to die of cancer even with the side effects from their placebo. I understand what you’re saying, but I wonder where you got your numbers. The mind is incredibly powerful, as can be seen with the placebo effect time and time again. But I think if you did a double blind of someone getting cancer treatment and someone getting nothing except the same symptoms, one would show that the cancer gets under control and the other would show a person about to die of cancer even with the side effects from their placebo.

]]> By: stringman http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/04/your-tax-dollars-teaching-medical-students-pseudoscience/comment-page-1/#comment-4635 stringman Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:47:28 +0000 http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/?p=2205#comment-4635 Actually, for situations where medical science only helps 10-20% of the time, I think wishful thinking is more beneficial. Health is at least 70% in your head. Look it up (don't hurt me)! Actually, for situations where medical science only helps 10-20% of the time, I think wishful thinking is more beneficial. Health is at least 70% in your head. Look it up (don’t hurt me)!

]]> By: Neece http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/04/your-tax-dollars-teaching-medical-students-pseudoscience/comment-page-1/#comment-4621 Neece Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:11:05 +0000 http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/?p=2205#comment-4621 Yes, Tim Minchon is the MAN. I was thinking of the very thing that you quoted him, but couldn't remember who said it so I never put it in the article. Thanks for reminding me! Yes, I agree, if you feel that rubbing a cactus on the soles of your feet will cure all of your diseases and help you live to be 200, by all means, rub away. That's your business and your money. But for what we teach people in medical school, it must be based on science! Yes! ancient remedies go in the history books. Give me science based medicine when I go to the doctor or hospital, please! Yes, Tim Minchon is the MAN. I was thinking of the very thing that you quoted him, but couldn’t remember who said it so I never put it in the article. Thanks for reminding me!

Yes, I agree, if you feel that rubbing a cactus on the soles of your feet will cure all of your diseases and help you live to be 200, by all means, rub away. That’s your business and your money.

But for what we teach people in medical school, it must be based on science! Yes! ancient remedies go in the history books. Give me science based medicine when I go to the doctor or hospital, please!

]]> By: Neece http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/04/your-tax-dollars-teaching-medical-students-pseudoscience/comment-page-1/#comment-4620 Neece Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:07:02 +0000 http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/?p=2205#comment-4620 Thanks Lemmy! Thanks for the link, I'll have to share that. :( Thanks Lemmy!

Thanks for the link, I’ll have to share that. :(

]]> By: Kaion http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/04/your-tax-dollars-teaching-medical-students-pseudoscience/comment-page-1/#comment-4608 Kaion Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:06:11 +0000 http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/?p=2205#comment-4608 Tim Minchin said it best, I think: "Alternative medicine, by definition, has either not been proven to work, or been proven not to work. Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proven to work? Medicine." If people want to learn this kind of mysticism, let them do it on their own dime. As you said, I want proven medical treatments for whatever ailments I may have. I certainly don't want to pay to have people taught things in med school that really have nothing to do with real medicine. Relegate ancient remedies to their proper place, the past. I like the sciencey ones. Tim Minchin said it best, I think:

“Alternative medicine, by definition, has either not been proven to work, or been proven not to work. Do you know what they call alternative medicine that’s been proven to work?

Medicine.”

If people want to learn this kind of mysticism, let them do it on their own dime. As you said, I want proven medical treatments for whatever ailments I may have. I certainly don’t want to pay to have people taught things in med school that really have nothing to do with real medicine. Relegate ancient remedies to their proper place, the past. I like the sciencey ones.

]]> By: Lemmy http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/11/04/your-tax-dollars-teaching-medical-students-pseudoscience/comment-page-1/#comment-4602 Lemmy Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:52:13 +0000 http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/?p=2205#comment-4602 Good stuff. Love that last line. Along a similar theme, I saw this story pop up this morning. Ugly stuff. http://rawstory.com/2009/11/democrats-healthcare-bill-pay-prayer-treatment/ Good stuff. Love that last line.

Along a similar theme, I saw this story pop up this morning. Ugly stuff.

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/democrats-healthcare-bill-pay-prayer-treatment/

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