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		<title>I Believe In Miracles</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn, now that song is going through my head. Who was that? Butch says it was Wild Cherry, but don&#8217;t hold me to it. Anyway, my friend Eric sent me a link to Michael Shermer&#8217;s site, to a page titled Miracle on Probability Street. He wrote it in 2004 but I thought I&#8217;d share it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Sea_otters_holding_hands.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-3047" title="Sea_otters_holding_hands" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Sea_otters_holding_hands-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="333" height="249" /></a>Damn, now that song is going through my head. Who was that? Butch says it was Wild Cherry, but don&#8217;t hold me to it. Anyway, my friend Eric sent me a link to Michael Shermer&#8217;s site, to a page titled <a href="http://www.michaelshermer.com/2004/08/miracle-on-probability-street/" target="_blank">Miracle on Probability Street</a>. He wrote it in 2004 but I thought I&#8217;d share it with you because it&#8217;s very good information.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all experienced a highly improbable event in our lives. Probably many, in fact. Some of us more than others, some more seemingly improbable than others. There is such a thing as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers" target="_blank">Law of Large Numbers</a> that explains these coincidences and &#8220;miracles&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skepdic.com/lawofnumbers.html" target="_blank">The Law of Large Numbers</a> simply stated (sans math): with a large enough sample many odd coincidences are likely to happen.</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/coincidence" target="_blank">Coincidence</a>: an occasion when two or more similar things happen at the same time, especially in a way that is unlikely and surprising.</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/miracle" target="_blank">Miracle</a>: an unusual and mysterious event that is thought to have been caused by a god, or any very surprising and unexpected event.</p>
<p>~</p>
<p>On a side note, I was disappointed with Dictionary.com&#8217;s listing on these words so I thought I&#8217;d go to the Cambridge Dictionary. The definition above is from the Dictionary of British English. Out of curiosity, I looked up the word miracle in the Cambridge Dictionary of American English:</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionaries.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=miracle*1+0&amp;amp;dict=A" target="_blank">Miracle</a>: an unusual and mysterious event that is thought to have been caused by God, or any surprising and unexpected event.</p>
<p>A very subtle but telling difference! I think I&#8217;ll be using the British version from now on.<span id="more-3045"></span></p>
<p>~</p>
<p>Anyway, I digress, again! I like how the definition of miracle is either caused by god, or (<a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/10/26/logical-fallacy-9-moving-the-goalpost/">moving the goalposts</a>) unexpected. Those are two very different kinds of events. One is something supernatural, manipulated by god&#8217;s hand. The other is something merely surprising. And yet the definition combines them, basically rendering it rather meaningless.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s get to the numbers that Michael Shermer shared in his article. He says:</p>
<blockquote><p>I cannot always explain &#8230; specific incidents, but a principle of probability called the Law of Large Numbers shows that an event with a low probability of occurrence in a small number of trials has a high probability of occurrence in a large number of trials. <strong>Events with million-to-one odds happen 295 times a day in America</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Shermer quotes CERN physicist Georges Charpak and University of Nice physicist Henri Broch from their book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801878675?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0801878675">Debunked!: ESP, Telekinesis, and Other Pseudoscience</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the case of death premonitions, suppose that you know of 10 people a year who die and that you think about each of those people once a year. One year contains 105,120 five-minute intervals during which you might think about each of the 10 people, a probability of one out of 10,512 — certainly an improbable event. Yet there are 295 million Americans. Assume, for the sake of our calculation, that they think like you. That makes 1/10,512 × 295,000,000 = 28,063 people a year, or 77 people a day for whom this improbable premonition becomes probable. With the well-known cognitive phenomenon of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias" target="_blank">confirmation bias</a> firmly in force (where we notice the hits and ignore the misses in support of our favorite beliefs), if just a couple of these people recount their miraculous tales in a public forum (next on Oprah!), the paranormal seems vindicated. In fact, they are merely demonstrating the laws of probability writ large.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, for example if 23 random people are asked their birthdays, there is a 50% chance that at least 2 of them celebrate the same birthday. It may seem like an amazing coincidence, but it&#8217;s not amazing at all.</p>
<p>Then Michael Shermer refers to a review of the above book by another physicist, Freeman Dyson. He talks about <a href="http://www.skepdic.com/littlewood.html" target="_blank">Littlewood&#8217;s Law of Miracles</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“In the course of any normal person’s life, miracles happen at a rate of roughly one per month.” Dyson explains that “during the time that we are awake and actively engaged in living our lives, roughly for eight hours each day, we see and hear things happening at a rate of about one per second. So the total number of events that happen to us is about thirty thousand per day, or about a million per month. With few exceptions, these events are not miracles because they are insignificant. The chance of a miracle is about one per million events. Therefore we should expect about one miracle to happen, on the average, every month.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So a miracle is basically a one in a million event, according to Littlewood who was a University of Cambridge mathematician. And we all have about a million little events in our lives every month. So we all get a miracle a month, or thereabouts (actually 35 days). See how cool math is? Of course, a miracle a month is rather commonplace, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Then, when observing and reporting events, there is the ever present loom of confirmation bias and anecdotal evidence, which is not very reliable, if at all.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;ve never understood is when people see Jesus or <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/07/23/holy-shit-a-miracle-from-the-heavens/">Mary in bird poop</a> or a pizza pan or a stump. (Basic everyday <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/07/08/pareidolia-on-toast/">pareidolia</a>, of course). Nothing special happens except that they recognize a face in a random pattern. But before you know it a shrine is constructed and people are kissing the bird poop and praying at the stump. Not being religious, I find this completely silly, but they are True Believers. Does the miracle follow the sighting? I never hear about anyone claiming a bonifide miracle from one of these sightings. (Then again, no true miracle has ever been verified, not scientifically). And Mary needs a better agent if she&#8217;s reduced to showing up in bird poop, but that&#8217;s just my humble opinion.</p>
<p>Other resources:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.csicop.org/si/show/coincidences_remarkable_or_random/" target="_blank">Coincidences: Remarkable or Random?</a></li>
</ul>

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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/10/23/the-fine-art-of-baloney-detection/" title="The Fine Art of Baloney Detection (October 23, 2009)">The Fine Art of Baloney Detection</a> (2)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/10/11/should-religion-be-taught-to-minors/" title="Should Religion Be Taught To Minors? (October 11, 2009)">Should Religion Be Taught To Minors?</a> (13)</li>
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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/09/15/mr-deity-and-the-skeptic-michael-shermer/" title="Mr. Deity and the Skeptic! (Michael Shermer) (September 15, 2009)">Mr. Deity and the Skeptic! (Michael Shermer)</a> (0)</li>
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		<title>Occam&#8217;s Razor: Part 1 of Our Critical Thinking Toolkit</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other day I wrote about Critical Thinking and how important it is. But knowing it&#8217;s good for you and actually using it in your daily life are two very different things. I want to put together a Critical Thinking Toolkit. One important tool is going to be Occam&#8217;s Razor: &#8220;entities must not be multiplied [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/funny-pictures-angry-cat-knows-where-you-sleep.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-3008" title="funny-pictures-angry-cat-knows-where-you-sleep" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/funny-pictures-angry-cat-knows-where-you-sleep-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="361" height="270" /></a>The other day I wrote about <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/08/01/critical-thinking-for-everyone/">Critical Thinking</a> and how important it is. But knowing it&#8217;s good for you and actually using it in your daily life are two very different things. I want to put together a Critical Thinking Toolkit.</p>
<p>One important tool is going to be <strong>Occam&#8217;s Razor</strong>: &#8220;entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity&#8221; (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem). That&#8217;s it in a nutshell right from William of Ockham, a Franciscan monk and English philosopher, theologian and logician in the 14th century.<br />
Another way to put it is: <strong>The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. </strong>But don&#8217;t get confused by the term, simple. It means:<strong> The hypothesis with the fewest assumptions is usually the correct one. </strong>When giving explanatory reasons for something, don&#8217;t posit more than is necessary.<strong> Or, don&#8217;t make any more assumptions than you have to.<br />
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<p>So let&#8217;s say you have 2 competing hypotheses that are basically equal in most respects. Then this principle would suggest that you choose the hypothesis that makes the fewest assumptions while still sufficiently answering the question. In science Occam&#8217;s Razor is used as a rule of thumb (a heuristic) to help researchers develop good models.</p>
<p>In your life it can help you make decisions and choose what to think and what to believe (or not believe). You can use it as a heuristic as well, a great rule of thumb in your Critical Thinking Toolkit.</p>
<p>Sometimes atheists use Occam&#8217;s Razor to argue against the existence of god since everything can be explained through natural means without complicating it with the supernatural.</p>
<p>Another example: Crop circles. There used to be 2 competing ideas for where crop circles came from. One was that flying saucers from an alien world made them. Another was that a person  (or people) used some type of instrument to make the designs in the grass. Since there is no evidence for the flying saucers from outer space, and given how complicated and how many assumptions need to be made to make that argument work, Occam&#8217;s Razor would suggest that the simpler explanation would be that humans did it with instruments. That is the argument that makes less assumptions.</p>
<p>Of course, the second argument could be wrong, but until there was more information, it was the preferable hypothesis. Then 2 guys admitted to the crop circle hoax in the 1990&#8242;s. So that ended that debate for most people.</p>
<p>A quote by Carl Sagan is appropriate here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan#cite_ref-40" target="_blank">Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence</a>. When it comes to the supernatural, Occam&#8217;s Razor is a very valuable tool indeed.</p>
<p>Sources:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.skepdic.com/occam.html" target="_blank">The Skeptic&#8217;s Dictionary</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.2think.org/occams_razor.shtml" target="_blank">2Think.org</a></li>
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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/10/23/the-fine-art-of-baloney-detection/" title="The Fine Art of Baloney Detection (October 23, 2009)">The Fine Art of Baloney Detection</a> (2)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/01/05/religulous-were-on-the-road-to-nowhere/" title="Religulous: We&#8217;re On The Road To Nowhere (January 5, 2009)">Religulous: We&#8217;re On The Road To Nowhere</a> (3)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/04/16/pure-atheism-vs-skeptical-atheism/" title="Pure Atheism vs Skeptical Atheism (April 16, 2010)">Pure Atheism vs Skeptical Atheism</a> (8)</li>
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		<title>Critical Thinking For Everyone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some time now, I&#8217;ve wanted to talk to you about critical thinking. I remember the bad old days when most of my thinking was emotional and reactive and I had no idea that such a thing as critical thinking even existed. It wasn&#8217;t a happy time. Over the last few years I&#8217;ve learned to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/41c464c2-831e-45d9-9364-a8cc139f8818.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-3001" title="Skeptical Sarcasm Ruppy" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/41c464c2-831e-45d9-9364-a8cc139f8818-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="390" height="293" /></a>For some time now, I&#8217;ve wanted to talk to you about critical thinking. I remember the bad old days when most of my thinking was emotional and reactive and I had no idea that such a thing as critical thinking even existed. It wasn&#8217;t a happy time. Over the last few years I&#8217;ve learned to think for myself and I can&#8217;t express how liberating and empowering that is.</p>
<p>If there is one gift you can give to a child or anyone else, it is to teach them to think for themselves. The educational system doesn&#8217;t teach this important skill. It teaches rote memorization and focuses on test taking. Therefore it&#8217;s up to you to learn it for yourself.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m self taught and have no formal training in this realm. Which means sharing it with you is harder. So instead of putting it off even longer, I thought maybe we could explore the subject together and develop a plan for sharing with others in our lives or on the web. First, let&#8217;s define it.</p>
<p>Here is a quote: <em>[Critical thinking is a] desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture. </em>~ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon" target="_blank">Francis Bacon</a> (1605)</p>
<p>Here is the short and sweet definition:</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/critical+thinking" target="_blank">Critical Thinking</a>: n: the mental process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and evaluating information to reach an answer or conclusion.<span id="more-3000"></span></p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve found that there are many different interpretations for this concept. You can see a <a href="http://austhink.com/critical/pages/definitions.html" target="_blank">whole page of them here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alamo.edu/sac/history/keller/accditg/ssct.htm" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s another one</a>:<br />
<em>&#8220;Critical thinking is best understood as the ability of thinkers to take charge of their own thinking. This requires that they develop sound criteria and standards for analyzing and assessing their own thinking and routinely use those criteria and standards to improve its quality.&#8221;</em> Elder , L. and Paul, R. &#8220;Critical thinking: why we must transform our teaching.&#8221; Journal of Developmental Education, Fall 1994.</p>
<p>What makes a critical thinker? Here are <a href="http://www.alamo.edu/sac/history/keller/accditg/ssct.htm" target="_blank">some attributes</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li> asks pertinent questions</li>
<li> assesses statements and arguments</li>
<li> is able to admit a lack of understanding or information</li>
<li> has a sense of curiosity</li>
<li> is interested in finding new solutions</li>
<li> is able to clearly define a set of criteria for analyzing ideas</li>
<li> is willing to examine beliefs, assumptions, and opinions and weigh them against facts</li>
<li> listens carefully to others and is able to give feedback</li>
<li> sees that critical thinking is a lifelong process of self-assessment</li>
<li> suspends judgment until all facts have been gathered and considered</li>
<li> looks for evidence to support assumption and beliefs</li>
<li> is able to adjust opinions when new facts are found</li>
<li> looks for proof</li>
<li> examines problems closely</li>
<li> is able to reject information that is incorrect or irrelevant</li>
</ul>
<p>Just about anyone can learn to think more critically. Even more importantly, you can use it in nearly every aspect of your daily living. You already think all the time, but if you are not consciously trying to think critically, your thoughts will be more biased, distorted, partial, uninformed and prejudiced. You&#8217;ll make decisions based on your emotions and feelings, you&#8217;ll rely on your &#8220;intuition&#8221; and your gut instinct, which can sometimes be useful but can often be quite flawed.</p>
<p>One way that flawed thinking is noticeable is through <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/logical-fallacies/">Logical Fallacies</a>, which we talk about here at HDC.</p>
<p>Here are some other resources that you might find useful:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://austhink.com/critical/index.htm" target="_blank">Critical Thinking on the Web</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.criticalthinking.org/starting/index.cfm" target="_blank">Foundation for Critical Thinking</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Well, that is enough to get us started. Do you have any great resources for learning to think critically that you would like to share?</p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/02/23/logical-fallacy-7-the-red-herring/" title="Logical Fallacy 7: The Red Herring (February 23, 2009)">Logical Fallacy 7: The Red Herring</a> (11)</li>
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		<description><![CDATA[I therefore must reject the hypothesis and assert that such a god cannot and does not exist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/6b998ea9-a94f-4e7e-8d4a-b51c27bbc93c.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2997" title="Basement Kitty Doesn't Like To Be Let Out of The Bag" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/6b998ea9-a94f-4e7e-8d4a-b51c27bbc93c-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="333" height="249" /></a>The following is an article by <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/testimonial/gmnightmare/">GMNightmare</a> which follows up from a previous post titled <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/12/04/your-god-is-not-omnipotent/">Your god is Not Omnipotent</a>:</p>
<p>To start out, the definition I am using for god is any given being that can supposedly create matter out of nothing, is omnipotent, and is unbound by physical spatial traits. Furthermore I derive that an omnipotent god constitutes as an unstoppable force or can be the causation of such. The existence of such a god forms my hypothesis (which I will regard as true for this proof); therefore the following mainly concerns itself with monotheistic brands of gods.</p>
<p>Using the above traits, the god from my hypothesis could create an object of infinite size and maximum density. This theoretical object would literally fill the entirety of the universe, with every small speck of space filled with matter. This rock constitutes as an immovable object as there is nowhere left to move the rock and thus it is incapable of movement. As an aside it happens that god can create an object so large that he cannot move it.</p>
<p>However the existence of an immovable object by definition means that an unstoppable force cannot also exist. Since that is a part of the definition of god outlined above, I therefore must reject the hypothesis and assert that such a god cannot and does not exist. In particular a god that can create matter unrestrained cannot also be omnipotent in all regards.</p>
<p>Simple, short, and sweet… but the devil is in the details (ha ha). Any god with boundaries and limitations obviously escapes the above, but from my experience that’s the last thing any monotheist will even begin to contemplate (god being the biggest baddest supernatural being that ever was—who also happened to create everything—just isn’t enough, seemingly god must also have limitless power and ability). So please qualify objections to the below considerations.</p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;">1)      Can god create an object so large even he cannot move it?<span id="more-2992"></span></p>
<p>The answer given above is yes. To disagree, please provide what way the following proof is inaccurate and give an alternative:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">a)      Definition: god is omnipotent (omnipresent as well).<br />
b)      Definition: god can create matter anywhere out of nothing.<br />
c)       Action: god creates matter everywhere he exists / in all space.<br />
d)      Analysis: there is nowhere left to move the object, thus…<br />
e)      Conclusion: god can create an object so large that he cannot move it.</p>
<p>It is a very logical progression given omnipotence that does not limit god in any way. Please refrain from self-defeating arguments, god cannot create space no matter how capable he is as space is nothing. I literally mean nothing, it doesn’t exist—it is the default before anything is created or exists there. Furthermore adding a step between c and d is self-defeating as well (such as removing a portion of the object to create space to move it) as it implies that before god does something to it the object is immovable.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2)      Infinity and Gravity</p>
<p>The first thing to note is that the matter in the object from the proof is countable infinity and the force is not. Infinity in mathematics doesn’t actually exist either, so any mathematical attempts should have both these considerations explained with it. I’d also like to add here that a theoretically infinite object is at equilibrium and has no center, so that should take care of gravity qualms.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3)      Hilbert’s Hotel Paradox</p>
<p>Hilbert’s Hotel paradox refers to a hotel with infinite rooms each filled with a guest (so full). However the hotel can accommodate infinitely more guests by putting a new guest in room 1 by having the guest in room 1 move to room 2, the guest in room 2 to room 3, and so on for each new guest. The conceptual flaw to this problem is that the hotel isn’t actually accommodating more guests; it’s just that there are now guests infinitely transitioning rooms. In other words the number of guests in rooms did not increase. This paradox cannot apply to the infinite object due to the incapability of having a transitional progression.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">4)      Beyond Reason</p>
<p>Please refrain from trying to tell me god is not understandable by human reason. Realize that there would be no correct religion if that was the case as no religion understands god, and there would be no assertions that god exists because it would be beyond reasoning. Besides religions often like to claim we were created in the image of god, thus cannot be outside of our reasoning. I’m going to make an assertion that anybody who asserts such doesn’t actually believe it… By saying god is beyond reason, nobody could then assert that anything above is wrong since it would be beyond their reasoning as well.</p>
<p>There we go, I think that covers all the rift-raft arguments. Let the fun begin!</p>

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		<title>Hitchens Is Right, The Creationism Debate Is Over!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a clip of Christopher Hitchens in a debate with John Haldane. (~5 min) I agree, the debate is over. Creationism has no validity. We are evolved creatures, and part of our evolution is a basic sense of morality. Not a moral absolute, of course, but even apes and dogs have been shown to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a clip of Christopher Hitchens in a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7cI_naNnEY&amp;NR=1" target="_blank">debate</a> with John Haldane. (~5 min)</p>
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<p>I agree, the debate is over. Creationism has no validity. We are evolved creatures, and part of our evolution is a basic sense of morality. Not a moral absolute, of course, but even apes and dogs have been shown to have morals. We don&#8217;t need god to be good. In fact, I&#8217;d say god makes it harder to be good for the right reason, especially since the god of Abraham is so amoral.</p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/12/15/why-i-am-not-a-christian/" title="Why I Am Not A Christian (December 15, 2009)">Why I Am Not A Christian</a> (0)</li>
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		<title>What Level Of Woo Would Make Someone Undateable?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a question for you. What level of woo would make someone undateable? What about unfriendable? Do you have a limit that you&#8217;ve drawn in your life or do you have a lot of woo woo people around you that you interact with? How do you get on with them? Do you find it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/funny-pictures-cat-ghost-kitteh.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2846" title="funny-pictures-cat-ghost-kitteh" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/funny-pictures-cat-ghost-kitteh-337x450.jpg" alt="" width="309" height="413" /></a>Here is a question for you. What level of woo would make someone undateable? What about unfriendable? Do you have a limit that you&#8217;ve drawn in your life or do you have a lot of woo woo people around you that you interact with? How do you get on with them? Do you find it difficult? Do you argue with them or are you silent about your woo disbelief?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skepdic.com/woowoo.html" target="_blank">Woo</a> can be defined as anything supernatural, irrational or lacking in evidence. So it would include religion and any kind of pseudoscience.</p>
<p>On a side note, is there anything that could be defined as woo that you still believe in? If so, why?</p>
<p>For me, I&#8217;ve somehow whittled down my friend list from all woo-lovers to all skeptical atheists. I didn&#8217;t do this deliberately, but I guess with my skeptical talk and constant questioning (not aggressively, but I really did question all the woo I previously embraced), my woo-loving friends all went their separate ways and avoided me within months of when my quest for knowledge began.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have many friends for awhile but then found the <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/" target="_blank">Morgantown Atheists</a> where I found several people that have become good friends. Also, having HDC has let me meet new people who were rather like-minded as well.</p>
<p>With extended family, I still have to deal with woo, both religious and supernatural. They know Butch (my awesome husband) and I are die-hard atheists so we have come to an unspoken agreement that we don&#8217;t talk about religion. Or politics just to be safe and have nice dinners together. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m lucky in most respects. My skeptical atheist friends keep things lively by being smart and reason-based (most of the time, we&#8217;re not perfect, of course). And my extended family gives me an occasional glimpse into woo-land so I get to see what the majority of people are dealing with and believing. It&#8217;s enough.</p>
<p><span id="more-2843"></span>I don&#8217;t avoid anyone based on their woo. But I tend to gently state my skepticism when I can so that I am not being dishonest about myself. Then people who are wrapped in woo tend to avoid me, not the other way around. I can&#8217;t emphasize enough that I am very nice about it, not aggressive or &#8220;militant&#8221; at all. I&#8217;m probably way <em>too</em> nice about it. The other evening, I let my sister-in-law go on about her visit to a psychic and only said two things about how cold readings work. When the other sister-in-law said the psychic (a 95 year old woman) insisted she give her her hand (she didn&#8217;t want a reading) and told her to never drive, to dump her boyfriend (who she just moved in with and is very happy with) and other negative things, I said a few things then. Mainly that it&#8217;s all made up and it&#8217;s nonsense and don&#8217;t let that upset her. But even though she said it was no big deal, she talked about it all night. I got the impression it really bothered her.</p>
<p>As you may know, I&#8217;m happily married to Butch (we&#8217;ve been together for 15 years). So I&#8217;m not looking to date anyone, of course. But if I did have to date, I think I would be pretty strict about how much woo my partner could be into and still be in a relationship with me. I think it would be such a clash of belief and skepticism that it would cause problems. I think I&#8217;d have issues with it.</p>
<p>Let us know what you think in the comments!</p>

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		<title>Logical Fallacies in Advertising</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awhile ago I wrote about Advertisements and Logical Fallacies. It was basically just an overview, but this time I thought I&#8217;d list some of the actual fallacies in advertising. No matter where we go, we&#8217;re bombarded with advertising and marketing. While companies have to follow the letter of the law and be &#8220;truthful&#8221; there are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/128704860789752067.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2824" title="finking outzide da box" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/128704860789752067.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="240" /></a>Awhile ago I wrote about <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/03/12/advertisements-and-logical-fallacies-part-1/">Advertisements  and Logical Fallacies</a>. It was basically just an overview, but this  time I thought I&#8217;d list some of the actual fallacies in advertising. No  matter where we go, we&#8217;re bombarded with advertising and marketing.  While companies have to follow the letter of the law and be &#8220;truthful&#8221;  there are loopholes and ways to avoid following the spirit of the law.</p>
<p>This is part of a series on <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/logical-fallacies/">Logical  Fallacies</a>.</p>
<p>People are highly suggestible. That&#8217;s just the way it is. I&#8217;m a  skeptic and I still fall prey to suggestibility. Usually I catch myself  and then put on my critical thinking cap, but it happens to the best of  us. The fact that companies (anyone using a marketing campaign,  including governments) go out of their way to trick us into buying their  stuff, meaning that more than ever we have to be critical thinkers in  our everyday lives.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/10/22/logical-fallacy-2-ad-hominem-personal-attack/">Ad  Hominem</a>: often used in political campaigns where some character flaw  is brought up. If it doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with their ability to  do their job, it&#8217;s irrelevant, and therefore a logical fallacy.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion" target="_blank">Appeal to Emotion</a>: any emotion can be exploited. If  they manipulate your feelings of sympathy, sexuality, anger, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear" target="_blank">fear</a>,  love, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_pity" target="_blank">pity</a>,  pride, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_flattery" target="_blank">flattery</a>, <a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/wishthnk.html" target="_blank">wishful  thinking</a>, <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/10/29/logical-fallacy-4-argumentum-ad-ignorantiam/">ignorance</a>,  etc., the company then snags you. You make a decision based on that  feeling. No logic or real benefit is addressed. This is a type of <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/02/23/logical-fallacy-7-the-red-herring/">Red  Herring</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/bandwagn.html" target="_blank">The  Bandwagon</a>: everyone else is doing it or buying it so you should  too. But that is irrelevant. Even if 99 people in 100 buy X toothpaste,  it doesn&#8217;t mean X toothpaste is a good product. It just means the  company is good at marketing. Do your research!<span id="more-2723"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma" target="_blank">False  Dilemma</a>: The either-or fallacy: Only two options are given when in  fact others are there but not mentioned. This is black and white  thinking. A company makes it sound like you have to choose between one  of two extremes, and their product or service is the only choice you  could make because the other is awful. In fact usually there is a range   of choices or a continuum of how the situation works, not just the two  extremes. And they may not even be mutually exclusive as shown.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear" target="_blank">Appeal  to Fear</a>: An appeal to emotion, this is common in politics and  marketing. Deception and propaganda are used in an attempt to increase  your fear and prejudice toward the competitor. The False Dilemma is  implied, because if A is scary then B is offered as your only  alternative.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization" target="_blank">Hasty Generalization</a>: Making a decision based on  insufficient evidence. Often there is a broad conclusion using  statistics of a small group even thought it fails to represent the whole  population.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/02/23/logical-fallacy-7-the-red-herring/">Red  Herring</a>: A diversionary tactic. Bringing an argument up in response  to another argument which does not address the real issue. Usually  there is an appeal to emotion in there as well. There are many kinds of  red herring arguments. Some used in advertising would be Appeal to  Tradition, Style over Substance, Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, Appeal to  Authority, and many more.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition" target="_blank">Appeal to  Tradition</a>: An idea is deemed correct based on the correlation with  some past or present tradition. Basically, this is right because it&#8217;s  always been done this way. Two assumptions are made: the old way of  thinking was proven correct when it was introduced (when in fact this  may be false), and the past justifications for the tradition are still  valid at present (but the circumstances may have changed).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/11/20/logical-fallacy-5-argument-from-final-authority/">Appeal  to Authority</a>: Saying something is true because a perceived  authority figure says it&#8217;s true. This is the opposite of the ad hominem  argument because the arguer is appealing to positive characteristics of  the person to support their argument. A classic example is a person in a  lab coat. The person is probably an actor, but they appear to be a  scientist so whatever they say must be true. Another example is a  business suit. If someone has a nice suit on, it doesn&#8217;t mean they are  experts at anything.</p>

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