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		<title>Critical Thinking For Everyone</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some time now, I&#8217;ve wanted to talk to you about critical thinking. I remember the bad old days when most of my thinking was emotional and reactive and I had no idea that such a thing as critical thinking even existed. It wasn&#8217;t a happy time. Over the last few years I&#8217;ve learned to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/41c464c2-831e-45d9-9364-a8cc139f8818.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-3001" title="Skeptical Sarcasm Ruppy" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/41c464c2-831e-45d9-9364-a8cc139f8818-450x337.jpg" alt="" width="390" height="293" /></a>For some time now, I&#8217;ve wanted to talk to you about critical thinking. I remember the bad old days when most of my thinking was emotional and reactive and I had no idea that such a thing as critical thinking even existed. It wasn&#8217;t a happy time. Over the last few years I&#8217;ve learned to think for myself and I can&#8217;t express how liberating and empowering that is.</p>
<p>If there is one gift you can give to a child or anyone else, it is to teach them to think for themselves. The educational system doesn&#8217;t teach this important skill. It teaches rote memorization and focuses on test taking. Therefore it&#8217;s up to you to learn it for yourself.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m self taught and have no formal training in this realm. Which means sharing it with you is harder. So instead of putting it off even longer, I thought maybe we could explore the subject together and develop a plan for sharing with others in our lives or on the web. First, let&#8217;s define it.</p>
<p>Here is a quote: <em>[Critical thinking is a] desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture. </em>~ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bacon" target="_blank">Francis Bacon</a> (1605)</p>
<p>Here is the short and sweet definition:</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/critical+thinking" target="_blank">Critical Thinking</a>: n: the mental process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and evaluating information to reach an answer or conclusion.<span id="more-3000"></span></p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve found that there are many different interpretations for this concept. You can see a <a href="http://austhink.com/critical/pages/definitions.html" target="_blank">whole page of them here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alamo.edu/sac/history/keller/accditg/ssct.htm" target="_blank">Here&#8217;s another one</a>:<br />
<em>&#8220;Critical thinking is best understood as the ability of thinkers to take charge of their own thinking. This requires that they develop sound criteria and standards for analyzing and assessing their own thinking and routinely use those criteria and standards to improve its quality.&#8221;</em> Elder , L. and Paul, R. &#8220;Critical thinking: why we must transform our teaching.&#8221; Journal of Developmental Education, Fall 1994.</p>
<p>What makes a critical thinker? Here are <a href="http://www.alamo.edu/sac/history/keller/accditg/ssct.htm" target="_blank">some attributes</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li> asks pertinent questions</li>
<li> assesses statements and arguments</li>
<li> is able to admit a lack of understanding or information</li>
<li> has a sense of curiosity</li>
<li> is interested in finding new solutions</li>
<li> is able to clearly define a set of criteria for analyzing ideas</li>
<li> is willing to examine beliefs, assumptions, and opinions and weigh them against facts</li>
<li> listens carefully to others and is able to give feedback</li>
<li> sees that critical thinking is a lifelong process of self-assessment</li>
<li> suspends judgment until all facts have been gathered and considered</li>
<li> looks for evidence to support assumption and beliefs</li>
<li> is able to adjust opinions when new facts are found</li>
<li> looks for proof</li>
<li> examines problems closely</li>
<li> is able to reject information that is incorrect or irrelevant</li>
</ul>
<p>Just about anyone can learn to think more critically. Even more importantly, you can use it in nearly every aspect of your daily living. You already think all the time, but if you are not consciously trying to think critically, your thoughts will be more biased, distorted, partial, uninformed and prejudiced. You&#8217;ll make decisions based on your emotions and feelings, you&#8217;ll rely on your &#8220;intuition&#8221; and your gut instinct, which can sometimes be useful but can often be quite flawed.</p>
<p>One way that flawed thinking is noticeable is through <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/logical-fallacies/">Logical Fallacies</a>, which we talk about here at HDC.</p>
<p>Here are some other resources that you might find useful:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://austhink.com/critical/index.htm" target="_blank">Critical Thinking on the Web</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.criticalthinking.org/starting/index.cfm" target="_blank">Foundation for Critical Thinking</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Well, that is enough to get us started. Do you have any great resources for learning to think critically that you would like to share?</p>

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		<title>An Alternative to the Santa Lie For Secular Parents</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 13:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it&#8217;s Spring and no one wants to be thinking of christmas this time of year, but my friend Joe sent me a paper called Ho, Ho, Hoax: The Case against Santa Claus by Ernâni Magalhães, Visiting Assistant Professor at WVU. It makes some excellent points which really got me thinking. Before I read [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bremerton_santa_crucifix.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2799" title="santa_crucifix" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bremerton_santa_crucifix-276x450.jpg" alt="" width="276" height="450" /></a>I know it&#8217;s Spring and no one wants to be thinking of christmas this time of year, but my friend Joe sent me a paper called <a href="http://philosophy.wvu.edu/r/download/16908" target="_blank">Ho, Ho, Hoax: The Case against Santa Claus</a> by <a href="http://philosophy.wvu.edu/faculty_staff/ernani_magalhaes" target="_blank">Ernâni Magalhães</a>, Visiting Assistant Professor at WVU. It makes some excellent points which really got me thinking.</p>
<p>Before I read this paper, I thought <a href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/" target="_blank">Dale McGowan</a>&#8216;s take on <a href="http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=3507" target="_blank">Santa</a> to be the best way to handle it. In a nutshell, he says Santa is a dry run for letting kids reason their way through the fact that Santa is a myth, to then figuring out that religion is mythical, as he puts it, Santa is &#8220;the ultimate dry run for a developing inquiring mind&#8221;. It makes sense in a way. But then my friend Joe told me about his experience as a kid.</p>
<p>Joe really believed in Santa, the Easter Bunny, etc. Then one day a kid in the playground told him it was all a pack of lies. Joe believed him and went home crying. He was devastated. When Joe and I talked about the McGowan philosophy of Santa, I figured out that in theory it seems like a great idea, but maybe in practice it could backfire and cause a lot of unhappiness and pain for kids who don&#8217;t get to reason it out for themselves but are told by other children.</p>
<p>And is it necessary to lie to children about a mythical jolly old fat man? Does it increase their happiness, improve their moral fiber? Does it make them better little people, or better adults down the line? And is there an alternative to lying about Santa?</p>
<p>First, there are 3 alternatives, according to Ernâni:</p>
<ul>
<li> Disbelief: The parent tells the child Santa Claus is not real</li>
<li> Neutrality: The parent does not inform the child one way or the other</li>
<li> Pretense: The parent invites the child to pretend there is a Santa Claus.(page 13)</li>
</ul>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;inviting to pretend there is a Santa Claus is morally superior to encouraging to believe. (14)</p>
<p>I never thought of this as an option, but it makes sense. You get all the good fun of Santa but you don&#8217;t get the lies and beliefs in those lies.</p>
<p>What about short term pleasure and pain? Here is what Ernâni has to say:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The extent to which the pleasure of children and adults justifies the Santa Claus lie depends on the amount of pleasure available from non-deceitful alternatives. The alternative that most closely replicates telling children there is a Santa Claus involves inviting children to pretend there is one. Although pretending something is real is fundamentally different from believing it is, as I have argued, many of the emotions evoked by an object believed to be real are also evoked by objects supposed to be fictional. Children and adults derive great pleasure from creatures of their imaginations, as witnessed by the large crowds at movie theaters. Children who are old enough to know she is fictional still derive great enjoyment from the pretense that Cinderella is a real person with real hopes. And, it is easy to replicate the gift-giving aspect of the Santa experience, which is surely a significant factor in the child’s enjoyment. (15-16)</p>
<p>Interesting and thought-provoking, don&#8217;t you think? This is even more important:<span id="more-2790"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">One reason the justification of the lie cannot be a matter of the short term pleasure is that the purpose of parenting is not only or even primarily to maximize children’s happiness and minimize their suffering. A major purpose of proper parenting is to foster the child’s moral and cognitive development. Much more important than whether Santa belief is conducive to happiness in the short term is the question whether it is conducive to a child’s moral and cognitive development. (17)</p>
<p>How true! It&#8217;s all about raising a child to be moral and to think for themselves throughout their lives. So it isn&#8217;t just the short term gain you need to think about, but the long term consequences.</p>
<p>Here is where I <em>really</em> agree with Ernâni:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">When parents tell their children about Santa Claus <em>they encourage belief, not imagination</em>. (17) Evidently, insofar as increased imagination is supposed to be what is gained through the Santa Claus experience, this can be much more effectively pursued by having the child pretend that Santa is real, rather than believe he is. (18)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Perhaps belief in Santa Claus is beneficial in that it fosters a “sense of magic” and “magical . . . thought” (Breen 2004). A magical occurrence, in the sense in question, would seem to be one which violates the laws of ordinary reality. Why should it be beneficial for a child to believe that there are things that work in unheard of ways? (18)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The similarity between the child’s belief in Santa and adult religious belief has been widely acknowledged. Children often think of Santa as having many of the same characteristics as God, to the extent that upon discovering the truth about Santa, some children question the existence of God as well.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>The resemblance between the child’s attitude toward Santa and religious belief is only an advantage of belief if encouraging this sort of religious belief is beneficial.</em> (20)</p>
<p>An excellent point! Why would any secular parent need to teach a child to believe in physics-breaking, supernatural magical beings at all? One thing I was thinking as I read this; wouldn&#8217;t it also sow a seed of doubt into that child that their parents lied to them about Santa? What else have they lied about?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If religious conviction is essentially belief in the absence of evidence, then the child’s attitude toward Santa is not religious conviction. Again, the child has ample testimonial and other evidence for the existence of Santa. (21)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">A plausible inference for the child to draw from the entire experience is a certain skepticism about claims of the existence of unseen things: once bitten, twice shy. And insofar as encouraging belief in Santa encourages belief in the absence of and contrary to perceptual evidence, the supposed advantage must be weighed against the tendency of the child who discovers the truth to infer that believing in things in the absence of evidence is a hazardous affair. (21-22)</p>
<p>I would also like to add, many millions and millions of kids who once believed in Santa never extend the thought process to then doubt God or Jesus. They figure out that Santa is a myth but never take that lesson any further to realize God is too. So it&#8217;s not a safe bet.</p>
<p>Ernâni makes a great point about morality and Santa:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Although Santa is still supposed to observe whether children are naughty or nice, this activity is rarely emphasized. And, importantly, it is extremely rare for parents to follow through on the traditional threat that Santa will not give presents to naughty children. Hardly any American child in the last twenty years has found a lump of coal in his stocking from Santa Claus. This is, interestingly, one of the few aspects of the tradition that has earned the condemnation of childhood psychologists. (22)</p>
<p>Does the concept that Santa, who the child admires, single-mindedly fulfills that child&#8217;s wishes translate to a child being more generous themselves? I don&#8217;t think so. Neither does Ernâni:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Nothing in the experience encourages the child to give. The child’s primary role in the ritual is as recipient. Indeed, a child who might otherwise feel inclined to do a generous deed for other children is apt to think that Santa will take care of their needs. The tradition does include the cookies and milk for Santa. But this is a rather limited generosity, applying as it does only to someone who has done very nice things for the child. Nothing in the behavior points to the importance of being generous to people in general. (23)</p>
<p>What are the alternatives to lying to a child about Santa then, if the goal is to teach generosity?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">One non-deceitful thing that might be done to encourage the child to be generous is to tell the child about the importance of generosity. One might encourage the child to give things to others. One might reward the child for doing generous things. In the right circumstances, such encouragement is known to lead to greater degrees of the tendency encouraged. Indeed, such a direct method promises a much higher likelihood of success than the roundabout method of encouraging the child to adopt Santa as a role model. (23)</p>
<p>What an amazing concept! Just teach a child directly without subterfuge!</p>
<p>Now, if the child is taught to just pretend in Santa, what do you teach that child about the beliefs of other children?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Any parent who decides not to encourage belief in Santa faces the question of how the child ought to discuss the issue with children who believe. If it is possible to teach formerly believing children the importance of discretion concerning Santa belief, then it is similarly possible to teach children who never believe the importance of discretion concerning believers. Children who are not told there is a Santa can easily be told that other children are told and that it is important not to ruin their fun by denying his existence. (24)</p>
<p>Ernâni then explains his main reason why it&#8217;s not good to lie to children about Santa:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The main problem with lying to children about Santa Claus is that it encourages children to lie. The encouragement happens because children inevitably discover that there is no Santa Claus. And although apparently some children at first believe that parents are similarly under the misimpression that there is a Santa Claus, eventually children discover that they have been deceived. As lately noted, when they discover the truth children are encouraged not to divulge the truth to other children and also to lie to them. Also when children discover that they have been lied to, they reasonably infer that such lying is held to be permissible by their parents and other adults whose opinion they hold in high regard. (25)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The first step involves the child’s discovery that the parent has lied. It cannot be seriously maintained that children do not discover that deceit has taken place. Children of seven or eight understand what is involved in lying. And eventually children understand that although their parents told them otherwise, the parents do not believe there is a Santa Claus. Children therefore<br />
become aware of two facts, both of which tend to encourage the child to lie. First, their parents (and many other adults) lie. Whether children imitate Santa Claus is questionable, but they undoubtedly imitate their parents. Since they observe and are aware of their parents lying, they are more likely to lie themselves. Second, their parents (and many other adults) believe that it is morally appropriate to lie. Children notice that their parents feel no moral qualm about having deceived the children about Santa Claus. It is evident to the child that the parent believes so deceiving the child was morally appropriate. (26)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8230;notice that the deceit about Santa Claus is part of a larger pattern: the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, being the two main other culprits. Together with these other incidents, the child is likely to draw the inference that lying is thought to be permissible in many cases beyond the Santa Claus situation. (27)</p>
<p>While I think that lying is a major flaw in teaching kids about Santa, I personally feel the worst part is teaching kids that a magical being gives them presents. I think all the points Ernâni makes are extremely important, and that together they make a strong case for simply encouraging children to pretend instead of lying to them.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>

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		<title>Science Can Answer Moral Questions</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam Harris gave a talk at TED recently and it&#8217;s now available. He talked about morals and how science doesn&#8217;t have to stay silent when it comes to what is best for conscious beings. It was very interesting. Please share it around if you like what he has to say. I&#8217;d love to hear your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Harris gave a talk at <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_science_can_show_what_s_right.html" target="_blank">TED</a> recently and it&#8217;s now available. He talked about morals and how science doesn&#8217;t have to stay silent when it comes to what is best for conscious beings. It was very interesting. Please share it around if you like what he has to say. I&#8217;d love to hear your opinions in the comments. I agree with him.</p>
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<p>About the talk:<br />
Questions of good and evil, right and wrong are commonly thought unanswerable by science. But Sam Harris argues that science can &#8212; and should &#8212; be an authority on moral issues, shaping human values and setting out what constitutes a good life.</p>
<p>Sam&#8217;s project: <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/" target="_blank">Project Reason</a><br />
His homepage: <a href="http://www.samharris.org/" target="_blank">SamHarris.org</a></p>

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		<title>Tell your Senator to Stop the Federal Funding of Religious Schools</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) filed a D.C. voucher amendment to the second jobs bill under consideration by the Senate.  The D.C. voucher program uses taxpayer funds to pay for parents to send their children to private religious schools. The program is called the “D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program,” but a 2007 government report found [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/20tsbva.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2587" title="20tsbva" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/20tsbva-450x328.jpg" alt="" width="411" height="299" /></a>Last night Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) filed a D.C. voucher amendment to the second jobs bill under consideration by the Senate.  The D.C. voucher program uses taxpayer funds to pay for parents to send their children to private religious schools. The program is called the “D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program,” but a 2007 government report found that these vouchers do not give D.C. students seeking a private school education sufficient secular choices, <strong>forcing them to attend religious schools or remain in the failing public school system. </strong><a href="http://action.secular.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2469"><strong><br />
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<p>By design, voucher programs aid struggling Christian schools. A July 2009 report by Rutgers University on the D.C. voucher program concluded that the way the voucher program is structured “essentially push[es] students into Christian Association and Catholic schools, pricing out independent (non-religious) schools and Hebrew schools.”</p>
<p>By continuing this program, those of us who do not wish to subsidize someone else&#8217;s church will continue to be forced to do so through our federal tax dollars.</p>
<p><strong>The vote will occur sometime today.</strong> Please take five minutes and email your Senators below and tell them to vote against this amendment that would re-authorize this program.<a href="http://action.secular.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2469"><strong><br />
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<p>The Secular Coalition for America opposes the use of government funds for religious purposes, including vouchers for religious schools. We agree with the founders of the United States that no individual taxpayer should be required to pay for someone else&#8217;s religion. We agree with James Madison. Senator Lieberman wants us to go in a different direction.</p>
<p>The D.C. Opportunity Scholarship, with your tax money, funds and enables proselytizing and religious discrimination. Recipients of the vouchers who attend religious schools are not even allowed to opt out of religious activities at their school—a direct affront to religious freedom.</p>
<p><strong>It is critical that you write your Senators today and ask them to oppose Sen. Lieberman’s amendment that would re-authorize this program and spend your taxes to fund the religious education of children in D.C. </strong></p>
<p><strong>Go to Secular <a href="http://action.secular.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2469" target="_blank">Coalition for America</a> to send a letter today.<br />
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		<title>Conversation with Anne About The Meaning Of Life</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other day I wrote to Anne in response to some questions she emailed me. She replied not long after in another email. Here is an excerpt (I&#8217;ve removed the more private information): (Note: I&#8217;ve added some happy puppies playing in the snow since this topic can be rather serious, and we are having the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/12/17/conversation-with-anne-about-religion-truth-science-and-history/">I wrote to Anne</a> in response to some questions she emailed me. She replied not long after in another email. Here is an excerpt (I&#8217;ve removed the more private information): (Note: I&#8217;ve added some happy puppies playing in the snow since this topic can be rather serious, and we are having the biggest snow in WV that I&#8217;ve seen since we moved here 5 years ago)<a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/animals_125_42-P.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2374" title="animals_125_42-P" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/animals_125_42-P-385x450.jpg" alt="animals_125_42-P" width="296" height="346" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Thank you for answering my email. I am only 21 and it seams that I am searching for myself and what it is that I can believe. I see how people lie on a daily basis to make the even more entertaining than the event really was so I find it hard to believe anything that is told to me. Giving this way of living I find it tremendously hard to base my life and way of living around things that have been written in a book (the bible) that has been translated umpteen different times before coming to english.  The thought that people let their lives revolve around something that was written 2000 years ago just amazes me. As humans are we so daft to do such a thing? The more I look into religion the more I am amazed at the living situations of some people in this world.</p>
<p>My dad did not express any beliefs of god when I was young because he is like me a firm non-believer until there is hard core facts to show him.  He wanted me to believe what I wanted and didn’t want his opinions to influence me so he felt it best not to tell me anything. My mother&#8230; well she didn’t teach me anything about god or religion until I was 12 we went to church for the first time. She stuck me in Sunday school before a service.  Now my father’s mother was catholic. She went twice on Sunday and Wednesday night. I stayed the night with her several times and went to church with her I believe when I was 7. That was enough religion for me. I still remember sitting in the pew looking around saying to myself &#8220;are these people really this crazy?!?&#8221;</p>
<p>I went to public schools in Indiana. I went to ten different schools before 9th grade so needless to say I was not well adjusted. I never really had any foundation so to say.</p>
<p>I have two children and I want to be able to educate them on religion and allow them to choose their own way.  I don’t see the point in trying to force them to do things my way because they need to find out who they are maybe then they won’t have the same struggles that I do.</p>
<p>To answer your question no I was never taught the prevailing theories of how the earth was formed through natural cosmic events. As I said we moved a lot and the curriculum was different at each school there were several things I missed out on. That is why I am so ignorant on religion because I was never taught the scientific end of the world.</p>
<p>I don’t feel that I &#8220;NEED&#8221; a religion. I would just like to know a little more about why I am here on this earth.  I feel there is a purpose for everything because it just doesn’t seam like we exist just to exist.  There is some sort of purpose behind our being.  So now my job is to find the why.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for this information!! You are right I will have many more questions for you.  I want to look over the information you have given me and I want to do some additional research. (Internet based because I now live in the middle of BFE so no museums in my area and the library has a limited amount of books. Besides the fact, I am in the middle of the Bible belt so there will be virtually no literature supporting the thought that there could be an existence not provided by god.)</p></blockquote>
<p><em>And here is my new reply:<span id="more-2373"></span></em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/206d6aee-337f-4b0f-aba2-c095e58c848d.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2375" title="206d6aee-337f-4b0f-aba2-c095e58c848d" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/206d6aee-337f-4b0f-aba2-c095e58c848d-450x412.jpg" alt="206d6aee-337f-4b0f-aba2-c095e58c848d" width="349" height="319" /></a>Thanks for answering my questions. Yes, please research for yourself. The internet opens the whole wide world of information up to you, even in the middle of BFE. I live in a small town that is quite heavily populated with churches and one sad library. There is one small set of shelves for the science section in there. It&#8217;s pathetic. I do almost all of my research online, too.</p>
<p>I was thinking about you today and found something that you might enjoy: a set of 5 videos for young and old alike by professor Richard Dawkins. He is an evolutionary biologist. It&#8217;s 5 lectures he is giving to children in England but I just watched the first two and really enjoyed them and learned little bits and pieces of information I didn&#8217;t know before. He talks and then demonstrates what he says in ways that are easy to understand. But trust me, he doesn&#8217;t talk down to anyone. He is quite interesting and has a great passion for life and how we got here and what our place in the world is.</p>
<p>Here is <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/growingupintheuniverse" target="_blank">a link to his website</a> with all 5 videos. They are an hour each, I think.</p>
<p>Finding meaning and purpose in your life is not the same as looking for something to believe in. Perhaps you&#8217;re using the term differently than I am. Perhaps what you mean is that the two things are the same. Let&#8217;s look at the definitions to clarify.</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/belief" target="_blank">belief</a>: 1. something believed; an opinion or conviction; 2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof; 3. confidence; faith; trust; 4. a religious tenet or tenets</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/purpose" target="_blank">purpose</a>: 1. the reason for which something exists or is done, made, used, etc.; 2. an intended or desired result; end; aim; goal.</p>
<p><a href=" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/meaning" target="_blank">meaning</a>: 2. the end, purpose, or significance of something</p>
<p>So a belief is a conviction that doesn&#8217;t have proof to back it up, which means it&#8217;s similar to faith.</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faith" target="_blank">faith</a>: 2. belief that is not based on proof</p>
<p>You said you want to know why you are here on earth and that you feel there is a purpose for everything. Why do you feel this way? Is it because it gives you comfort? Just because you want to believe there is a deeper meaning to the universe doesn&#8217;t make it so. There is no evidence that there is any validity to that kind of thinking.</p>
<p>Let me put it this way. You say you feel there is a reason you are here on this earth. This leads to <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/logical-fallacies/">fallacious thinking</a> where every little thing that goes right in your life affirms this false belief. Of course this is <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/08/27/logical-fallacy-8-cherry-picking/">cherry-picking</a> because you ignore all the things that happen in your life that are completely meaningless or downright negative. This leads you to think you (and the human race) are special, that we have some magical purpose because you have ignored the whole of reality to focus only on what you feel and what confirms what you want to believe to begin with.</p>
<p>The human mind is amazing and awesome, but it does take shortcuts and can easily be misled and make wrong conclusions. It&#8217;s very easy to cherry-pick and remember only what feels right or what seems special. This is dangerous and will lead you down a path of lies and myths in trying to believe in and confirm something that has no basis in reality.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s normal to ponder why were are here and what it all means. We have consciousness and an amazingly complex brain that can handle complicated concepts like the number 0 and the number 1 for example.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2241901010_38270c5163.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2376" title="2241901010_38270c5163" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2241901010_38270c5163-450x300.jpg" alt="2241901010_38270c5163" width="380" height="253" /></a>I also think this is one of the toughest issues an atheist deals with. If there is no god then what is the reason for existing? What is our purpose in life?</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s pretty simple. There is no purpose for everyone. You make your own purpose. You have to find your own meaning. I think some universal ideas would be to always keep learning, and do your best and be a good person. What is the meaning of life? There isn&#8217;t any one meaning. It&#8217;s what you find important. Try to find your own happiness and do as little damage to others as possible along the way.</p>
<p>Since you have children, nothing is more important in this part of your life than raising them to the best of your ability. Raising them free of dogma, with honesty, with a the ability to ask questions and think for themselves is the best thing you can do for them.</p>
<p>I know that thinking there is some cosmic force for good out there is really appealing, but there&#8217;s no evidence for such a thing. While it&#8217;s nice to chalk up good things to such a force, there are an awful lot of bad things &#8211; no natural justice, natural disasters, birth defects, etc &#8211; that make that seem pretty silly.</p>
<p>Basically you are here on this earth because life moves inexorably on. Within life, the need to procreate is part of evolution and natural selection. Again I recommend the videos by Dawkins that I linked to above. They will really give you an idea of evolution which will help you to see that we evolved naturally, and will continue to evolve unless we destroy ourselves and the planet by being careless, short-sighted and selfish.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2269579152_23c00007ff.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2377" title="2269579152_23c00007ff" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2269579152_23c00007ff-450x299.jpg" alt="2269579152_23c00007ff" width="413" height="274" /></a>Instead of searching for why you are here, make the most of your one precious life. Raise your children to the very best of your ability, be good to yourself and others, learn as much as you can. Make your own meaning and purpose with what you have.</p>
<p>Sometimes thinking for yourself, being free of religious dogma, reminds us of our grown-up responsibilities that religion masks. Thinking about such topics are part of being truly grown-up in this life. It might not be fun when you first encounter the new ideas, but reality is always preferable to fairy tales and lies. Give it a few days. Learn as much as you can about evolution and you&#8217;ll see. Truth and reality are magnificent and beautiful.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[To the Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia, don&#8217;t give up! Fight the good fight! I just read an article by Staks Rosch in the Philadelphia Examiner about the FSGP and their Tree of Knowledge. It&#8217;s an evergreen tree decorated with book covers (how shocking, how impudent!) from books representing knowledge, education, science, philosophy, morality, diversity [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/treeofknowledge2009.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2308" title="treeofknowledge2009" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/treeofknowledge2009-253x450.jpg" alt="treeofknowledge2009" width="253" height="450" /></a>To the <a href="http://www.fsgp.org/" target="_blank">Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia</a>, don&#8217;t give up! Fight the good fight!</p>
<p>I just read an article by Staks Rosch in the <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-8928-Philadelphia-Atheism-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Atheist-Tree-of-Knowledge-under-attack" target="_blank">Philadelphia Examiner</a> about the FSGP and their Tree of Knowledge. It&#8217;s an evergreen tree decorated with book covers (how shocking, how impudent!) from books representing knowledge, education, science, philosophy, morality, diversity and curiosity. (I am so offended! What? No Twilight?! No Dan Brown?!) <a href="http://www.fsgp.org/storage/Tree of Knowledge Master Booklist.pdf" target="_blank">Here</a> is a complete list of the books represented.</p>
<p>Staks makes some points that I really like: &#8220;[The Tree of Knowledge] <em> is not an attack on religion, but rather an expression of an alternative set of values (i.e. knowledge and reason).&#8221;</em></p>
<p>How horrific! Now I understand why the good christians of the area are so up in arms, vandalizing the tree and organizing call campaigns to get it removed. And why the county is bending to the will of one religion on government property. It&#8217;s just so hateful to have a tree decorated with thoughtful, intelligent books. What? Oh? It&#8217;s not threatening at all? EXACTLY! WTF!</p>
<p>Staks also says, &#8220;<em>Many Christians have claimed that the inclusion of humanist values next to the Jesus Crèche is an attempt to “steal” Christmas. It seems that many Christians are of the opinion that Christians own the winter season. They do not.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Later he says, <em>&#8220;Atheists aren’t trying to “steal” Christmas any more than Christians stole Saturnalia… oh wait, never mind.</em>&#8221; Again, I agree completely.</p>
<p>This kind of thing makes me so angry. Religious organizations bully their way into having their cake and eating it too. Politicians and the masses alike bend to that will for what reason? Why do they get to own most holidays? My sister in law is offended when I say happy holidays instead of merry christmas. It&#8217;s the classic bully at the pulpit who then cries and runs for the government to protect him when someone brings up that he&#8217;s breaking the law or that he&#8217;s being a bully.</p>
<p>christians and muslims don&#8217;t want to play fair. They want to win. Which is why I am an activist atheist. I don&#8217;t want to be forced to pray to a man in the sky that doesn&#8217;t exist. I am moral and ethical on my own without being forced into the barbaric false ethics of an iron aged society of goat herders from the Middle East.</p>
<p>I suppose here in Morgantown, if such inequities are occurring, we&#8217;ll put up an atheist/humanist display soon too. At this time, I am not aware of any. But I haven&#8217;t checked every government building lawn for crèches either.</p>
<p>Keep an eye out in your town. If you see religious displays on government property, take action, form a group. You can then turn it into a community of like-minded people like we&#8217;ve got here in our sleepy little town. It&#8217;s the most wonderful feeling to hang out with a bunch of freethinkers. But don&#8217;t just take things lying down. Don&#8217;t let the religious people bully us into giving up our freedoms and our constitutional rights just because we are too apathetic to make a stand for those rights.</p>
<p>EDIT: The Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia has helpful hints for <a href="http://www.fsgp.org/tree-of-knowledge/" target="_blank">setting up your own Tree of Knowledge</a>.</p>

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		<description><![CDATA[The other day I got an email from an atheist couple who have two kids, one 9 and one 10. They asked me for information regarding websites or literature that might deal with &#8220;god pressure&#8221; for kids at school. This would be the 4th and 5th grade. Apparently kids at their school are proselytizing and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128837916282606782.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2215" title="128837916282606782" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128837916282606782-450x337.jpg" alt="128837916282606782" width="389" height="291" /></a>The other day I got an email from an atheist couple who have two kids, one 9 and one 10. They asked me for information regarding websites or literature that might deal with &#8220;god pressure&#8221; for kids at school. This would be the 4th and 5th grade. Apparently kids at their school are proselytizing and mocking these 2 kids for not believing.</p>
<p>The parents don&#8217;t want their kids to feel like freaks and also want to help them counter the exasperated &#8216;you don&#8217;t believe in god!&#8217; remarks. Sam, the father, admits that it can be lonely to not believe in god sometimes. I understand. I feel that way too, although not as much as before I belonged to <a href="http://www.morgantownatheists.com/" target="_blank">Morgantown Atheists</a>.</p>
<p>Diane, the mother, says they are open to ideas and suggestions. She says they have friends who aren&#8217;t religious but still believe in god. It&#8217;s not the same thing.</p>
<p>Seeing as how only about 10% of the population would go so far as to actually use the dreaded A-word, it can be isolating to be godless in a sea of believers. As I&#8217;ve mentioned, I still keep my atheism to myself when around Butch&#8217;s family. Some of them know we&#8217;re atheists but it&#8217;s never been brought up or mentioned. This means that a huge part of what I spend my time thinking about and being an activist over can&#8217;t be talked about when I spend time with others. It&#8217;s kind of lonely, in a way. <span id="more-2214"></span></p>
<p>For Sam and Diane, I suggested they join a local atheist/humanist/freethinker group to get some community support. There&#8217;s nothing like simply hanging out with like-minded people to feel more connected. In my personal experience, the benefits of belonging to a local organization are numerous. I have felt much happier since joining. Just knowing there are others who think like me is a great relief, in a way.</p>
<p>I know, many atheists are loners and not into joining. I used to think I was like that too. Then I realized I am just picky. I don&#8217;t want to belong to a group that has wildly different values than me. But having a coffee and talking to someone who is also a godless heathen is, well, liberating and intellectually stimulating.</p>
<p>I have to say something now regarding children and atheism. One of my friends, I think it was Dan, recently commented ( I can&#8217;t remember if it was here on HDC or Facebook. And I think it was Dan&#8230; or Steve. I&#8217;m sorry, my friends, I am not positive. Please feel free to correct me) about a conversation he had with his 9 year old daughter. She asked her dad about god. Dan gave a good answer about what god is, and said something along the lines of that&#8217;s how a lot of people believe. His daughter asked him what he believed, if he believed in god. Dan explained he is an atheist and that no, he doesn&#8217;t. Then he asked her what <em>she</em> thought about god. She said the smartest, most amazing thing, which told me he&#8217;s a wonderful dad. She said, &#8220;I think I&#8217;m too young to decide.&#8221;</p>
<p>What that tells me is that Dan is raising his daughter, <em>not</em> to be an atheist, but <em>to think for herself</em>. I think the <em>most important</em> thing you can ever do for a child is to teach them critical thinking. Let them figure things out for themselves. Let them reason and make mistakes. <em><strong>Teach them how to think. Not what to believe</strong>.<br />
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<p>I&#8217;m still thinking about what to tell Sam and Diane&#8217;s kids, in how to deal with other kids who are brainwashed with religion already. Do you have any suggestions, websites, or books that might help them?</p>

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