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		<title>Happy Thanksgiving Everyone</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128238941018561338_1096b54a-51e3-4e.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2275" title="o i dare u!" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128238941018561338_1096b54a-51e3-4e-450x299.jpg" alt="o i dare u!" width="355" height="237" /></a>All day long I&#8217;ve been thinking about you. I wanted to write a nice post for you for Thanksgiving. Unfortunately I am feeling a bit frustrated and unable to focus on anything.</p>
<p>So, I thought I&#8217;d use this space to share some Lolcat love and also what I&#8217;m thankful for.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m really grateful for is you, the people who read my thoughts and musings. It means a lot to me, so thanks!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really grateful to science and scientists who have done such amazing work over the ages to observe and research the world around us. I am especially grateful to the science of medicines that make my life better, like allergy relievers, eye drops, ibuprofen and acetaminophen, acid reducers, just to name a few. Also hand cream makes my life better too. And eyeglasses, thanks Ben Franklin (&#8230;oh, he invented bifocals. Well, thanks to Ben Franklin [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128238941018561338_1096b54a-51e3-4e.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2275" title="o i dare u!" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128238941018561338_1096b54a-51e3-4e-450x299.jpg" alt="o i dare u!" width="355" height="237" /></a>All day long I&#8217;ve been thinking about you. I wanted to write a nice post for you for Thanksgiving. Unfortunately I am feeling a bit frustrated and unable to focus on anything.</p>
<p>So, I thought I&#8217;d use this space to share some Lolcat love and also what I&#8217;m thankful for.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m really grateful for is you, the people who read my thoughts and musings. It means a lot to me, so thanks!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really grateful to science and scientists who have done such amazing work over the ages to observe and research the world around us. I am especially grateful to the science of medicines that make my life better, like allergy relievers, eye drops, ibuprofen and acetaminophen, acid reducers, just to name a few. Also hand cream makes my life better too. And eyeglasses, thanks Ben Franklin (&#8230;oh, he invented bifocals. Well, thanks to Ben Franklin anyway. He&#8217;s a founding father. But thanks to whoever invented eyeglasses!)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-cat-sees-pumpkin-brains.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2278" title="funny-pictures-cat-sees-pumpkin-brains" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/funny-pictures-cat-sees-pumpkin-brains-367x450.jpg" alt="funny-pictures-cat-sees-pumpkin-brains" width="196" height="239" /></a>Thanks to Tempur Pedic, and big TV&#8217;s, the inventor of the personal computer and the internet. Thanks to whoever came up with ergonomic stuff like keyboards and trackballs, and comfy office chairs! And dual monitors, too. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks to my awesome longsuffering husband Butch, who lets me do basically whatever I like (don&#8217;t worry, he gets treated well in return!) and who loves me and makes me happy everyday, and to my awesome dogs that drive me crazy. I love my little family!</p>
<p>Thanks to my awesome friends and the people that are or have become like family to me. You know who you are. I love you.</p>
<p>Thanks to our founding fathers for the Bill of Rights, and making sure we had freedom of religion, and from religion in there, as well as freedom of speech, and the right to bear arms.</p>
<p>Thank you so much to the all rats and bonobos and monkeys and chimps and e. coli that die in the name of science every day. Thanks for research (oh, yeah.. see above.. obviously I really love science!)</p>
<p><span id="more-2274"></span><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/fortehlasttim128643271704509399.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-2276 alignright" title="for teh last time, iz festivly plump!" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/fortehlasttim128643271704509399-450x337.jpg" alt="for teh last time, iz festivly plump!" width="339" height="253" /></a>Thanks for online research, from Google and Wikipedia to WolframAlpha and beyond. And for online shopping!</p>
<p>Thanks to the great people at my favorite podcasts for keeping me company and teaching me awesome stuff: <a href="http://www.theskepticsguide.org/" target="_blank">The Skeptic&#8217;s Guide to the Universe</a>, <a href="http://doubtreligion.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Reasonable Doubts</a>, <a href="http://www.thenakedscientists.com/" target="_blank">The Naked Scientists</a> and also to <a href="http://www.mrdeity.com/" target="_blank">Mr. Deity</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/EdwardCurrent" target="_blank">Edward Current</a> and <a href="http://www.rickygervais.com/index.php" target="_blank">Ricky Gervais</a>. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for delicious food. (But please keep working on making food that tastes good, is good for me AND doesn&#8217;t make me fat or give me acid reflux! kthnx!)</p>
<p>Thank you baby Jesus.. haha.. just kidding!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/FILE3767-2.JPG"><img class="size-medium wp-image-2277 alignleft" title="cat decorates the tree" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/FILE3767-2-450x333.jpg" alt="cat decorates the tree" width="367" height="271" /></a>Ok, that&#8217;s a good start. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s much more, but you get the idea. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks again to you for reading. I really love your comments too. It makes my day!</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving!</p>

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		<title>By god, he&#8217;s a Bad Designer!</title>
		<link>http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/09/19/by-god-hes-a-bad-designer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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<p>The other day I was pondering how our bodies have features that are poorly designed. Not to get too personal, but I have a hard time with coughing over the least little thing. Sometimes if I inhale wrong, my uvula freaks out and I start to cough like crazy. It&#8217;s horrible.</p>
<p>So I wanted to write down some goofy examples to share with you, as if there were a god, he&#8217;s pretty bad at designing. Then my mind kind of fizzled out, so I thought, hell, I&#8217;m not the first person to come up with this brilliant idea. I&#8217;ll Google it. That&#8217;s when I found the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgSaTYLYRGI" target="_blank">following video</a>, which sums it up in about 6 minutes rather perfectly.</p>
<p>Neil deGrasse Tyson did a talk back in late 2006 where he ended with the following: (I have reproduced most of his slides below for your convenience)</p>
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<p>The other day I was pondering how our bodies have features that are poorly designed. Not to get too personal, but I have a hard time with coughing over the least little thing. Sometimes if I inhale wrong, my uvula freaks out and I start to cough like crazy. It&#8217;s horrible.</p>
<p>So I wanted to write down some goofy examples to share with you, as if there were a god, he&#8217;s pretty bad at designing. Then my mind kind of fizzled out, so I thought, hell, I&#8217;m not the first person to come up with this brilliant idea. I&#8217;ll Google it. That&#8217;s when I found the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgSaTYLYRGI" target="_blank">following video</a>, which sums it up in about 6 minutes rather perfectly.</p>
<p>Neil deGrasse Tyson did a talk back in late 2006 where he ended with the following: (I have reproduced most of his slides below for your convenience)</p>
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<strong>Universe</strong> (it&#8217;s not here for any singular purpose, certainly not here for us)</p>
<ul>
<li>Most planet orbits are unstable</li>
<li> Star formation is completely inefficient: Less than 3% of a gas cloud actually makes a star</li>
<li>Most places in the universe will kill life instantly: heat, radiation, cold</li>
<li>Galaxy orbits are bound to bring us near a supernova</li>
<li>We&#8217;re on a collision course with the Andromeda Galaxy</li>
<li>We&#8217;re in a one-way expanding universe as we wind down to oblivion</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Earth</strong> (no sign of a benevolent deity here)</p>
<ul>
<li>Earthquakes and volcanoes level cities and villages</li>
<li>Tsunamis have recently killed about 200,000</li>
<li>Floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, lightning strikes</li>
<li>We can&#8217;t live on 2/3 of the Earth&#8217;s surface</li>
<li>We&#8217;d freeze or starve to death on half of what remains</li>
<li>Mass extinctions: disease, climate shift, killer asteroids</li>
<li>99% of all life that ever lived is now extinct</li>
<li>Inner solar system is a shooting gallery: comets, asteroids</li>
<li>It took 3.5 billion years just to make multi-cellular life (hardly an efficient plan)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Humans</strong> (only talking about nature wanting to kill us without the help of other human beings) (note, I&#8217;ve added some of my own here)</p>
<ul>
<li>Aggressive childhood leukemia, SIDS, hemophilia, sickle cell anemia, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, Parkinson&#8217;s, ALS, birth defects, cancer (the list goes on and on)</li>
<li>Human eye: has a very narrow view of the electromagnetic spectrum</li>
<li>We lose an awful lot with age. Our body parts often don&#8217;t last a lifetime: vision, hearing, teeth, bone mass, etc., then gain disease: prostate cancer, Alzheimer&#8217;s</li>
<li>We exhale most of the oxygen we inhale (very inefficient)</li>
<li>We can&#8217;t detect magnetic fields, ionizing radiation fields, radon</li>
<li>Warm blooded: we have to eat constantly (compared to crocodiles)</li>
<li>We&#8217;re practically comatose for 1/3 of our lives</li>
<li>We can&#8217;t detect these gases by smell, taste or sight, yet if we breathe them in we&#8217;re dead: CO, CH4, CO2</li>
<li>Mouths: We eat, breathe, drink and talk through the same hole in our body, guaranteeing some percentage of us will choke to death in our lifetimes (what about dolphins? They eat and breathe through different holes!)</li>
<li> Genitals:  an entertainment complex in the middle of a sewage system: no engineer would design that, at all! Ever!</li>
<li>The prostate is the g-spot for men, and by age 80 it will get cancerous in almost all cases</li>
<li>Sexual maturity before emotional maturity (so kids can have kids)</li>
<li>Teeth: they get impacted, come in too crowded or spaced wrong, get cavities easily, get gum disease where a toothbrush can&#8217;t even reach (they have to be maintained by artificial means)</li>
<li>Genitals: dangly testicles that are easily hurt</li>
<li>Menstruation and menopause</li>
<li>We&#8217;re very fragile</li>
</ul>
<p>Feel free to add to the list of &#8220;bad designs&#8221; in the comments!</p>

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		<title>How Far I&#8217;ve Come!</title>
		<link>http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/07/28/how-far-ive-come/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/thinking-cat-is-thinking.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1866" title="thinking-cat-is-thinking" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/thinking-cat-is-thinking-450x337.jpg" alt="thinking-cat-is-thinking" width="304" height="228" /></a>Last week, I ran some errands with Butch. One of them involved me waiting for him to take a test which he thought was going to be a half hour. It turned out that it was an hour and a half, which was actually good considering they had 3 hours allotted.</p>
<p>I was bored out of my mind after about 12 minutes of sitting in the car, and started to find ways to occupy myself. I got out and wandered around to look at all the different lichens on the trees, but I didn&#8217;t have enough light to get any decent pictures.  I paced , looking at ants, then sat in the car and read my book for awhile, tried not to think about how much Monster energy drink I had consumed on the way there, and let my mind generally wander around. It was excruciating. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/thinking-cat-is-thinking.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1866" title="thinking-cat-is-thinking" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/thinking-cat-is-thinking-450x337.jpg" alt="thinking-cat-is-thinking" width="304" height="228" /></a>Last week, I ran some errands with Butch. One of them involved me waiting for him to take a test which he thought was going to be a half hour. It turned out that it was an hour and a half, which was actually good considering they had 3 hours allotted.</p>
<p>I was bored out of my mind after about 12 minutes of sitting in the car, and started to find ways to occupy myself. I got out and wandered around to look at all the different lichens on the trees, but I didn&#8217;t have enough light to get any decent pictures.  I paced , looking at ants, then sat in the car and read my book for awhile, tried not to think about how much Monster energy drink I had consumed on the way there, and let my mind generally wander around. It was excruciating. <img src='http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>At one point I noticed that there was a decorative wall that had the top knocked off, around a little flower garden near the front doors (which were locked so I couldn&#8217;t go in and get rid of the huge amount of Monster now making me miserable). Next to it were lots of bits of broken concrete, but among them, like a shining miracle, was a smooth brown river stone. I picked it up and thought how lucky I was to find something so wonderful in all that chaos.</p>
<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/miracle" target="_blank">Miracle</a>: An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of god.</p>
<div id="attachment_1867" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 341px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1867" title="Neece's Miracle Rock" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/P7270002-450x299.jpg" alt="Neece's Miracle Rock" width="331" height="219" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Neece holding the Miracle Rock</p></div>
<p>Of course, I was just being silly. It was just a misplaced stone from another flower bed, but I was thinking how easily it is to see something that stands out as somehow special or miraculous. I slipped it in my pocket with a smirk. My sacred touch with the divine (NOT!). It reminded me of the way people see patterns in randomness and claim it to be divine, such as <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/07/10/dumb-as-a-stump/">the magical stump</a> and <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/07/23/holy-shit-a-miracle-from-the-heavens/">the magical bird shit</a>. It&#8217;s really nothing more than <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia" target="_blank">pareidolia</a>.</p>
<p>Back in the car, waiting patiently, I glanced up at the rear view mirror and saw a sticker that I had put there probably  10 years ago. Now, in the 10 years that we&#8217;ve had this car, this is the only sticker I&#8217;ve ever put on it that was not practical. We have the registration stickers, and the oil change one, but no bumper stickers except this one, which I had placed there because it meant so much to me back then. I wanted to see it every time I got in the car. I wanted to be reminded of this message, which was:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Universe arranges itself to accommodate your picture of reality!</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, if you read HDC regularly, I&#8217;m sure you are aware that this is utter pseudoscience bullshit. It is completely and totally wrong and anyone who holds this as truth is crazy. I was crazy back then. I believed that thoughts were powerful and could help shape the universe. I was wrapped up in a lot of &#8220;spiritual&#8221; thinking that was completely bogus.</p>
<p>It was easy to selectively enforce those beliefs back then though. To me, this statement was accurate. It never occurred to me how ridiculous and nonsensical it was. I was a believer in &#8220;energy&#8221; and a conscious universe (even though I was an agnostic).</p>
<p>So as I sat there, I was amazed at how far I&#8217;ve come over the years. I now embrace science, reason, skepticism and logic, which to me, is much more rewarding, and certainly more consistent and satisfying than the desperate beliefs that were based on nothing more substantial than wishful thinking.</p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/01/12/the-law-of-attraction-and-the-secret-are-bullshit/" title="The Law Of Attraction- And The Secret -Are Bullshit (January 12, 2009)">The Law Of Attraction- And The Secret -Are Bullshit</a> (75)</li>
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		<title>The Nicest Compliment Ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/file1227-2.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1428" title="youz not our mom" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/file1227-2-450x299.jpg" alt="youz not our mom" width="450" height="299" /></a>So, I got an email from a nice man yesterday. He read <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/testimonial/fruitloop/">my de-conversion story</a> and told me something I have never been told before, at least not this way. He told me I need to reconsider and have a child! Now, I&#8217;m 40, so I really don&#8217;t see that happening for a myriad of reasons, but the sentiment was so honest and forthright that I was taken aback.</p>
<p>This nice man found HDC and my story and just thought that atheists like me and my husband should have more children. You know, he&#8217;s right, in a way. I mean, if you can do it, and you&#8217;re a freethinking atheist, then yes, you should consider having a kid or two. Like he said, it would bring a bit more sanity into the world.</p>
<p>Unfortunately people who are more educated, intelligent and rational might think it&#8217;s a bad idea. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/file1227-2.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1428" title="youz not our mom" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/file1227-2-450x299.jpg" alt="youz not our mom" width="450" height="299" /></a>So, I got an email from a nice man yesterday. He read <a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/testimonial/fruitloop/">my de-conversion story</a> and told me something I have never been told before, at least not this way. He told me I need to reconsider and have a child! Now, I&#8217;m 40, so I really don&#8217;t see that happening for a myriad of reasons, but the sentiment was so honest and forthright that I was taken aback.</p>
<p>This nice man found HDC and my story and just thought that atheists like me and my husband should have more children. You know, he&#8217;s right, in a way. I mean, if you can do it, and you&#8217;re a freethinking atheist, then yes, you should consider having a kid or two. Like he said, it would bring a bit more sanity into the world.</p>
<p>Unfortunately people who are more educated, intelligent and rational might think it&#8217;s a bad idea. But the movie Idiocracy does make a good point. Mostly people who are sheep, who follow the crowd, who think having unprotected sex is ok because, if they get pregnant it was &#8220;<em>meant to be</em>&#8220;! (my idiot neighbors told me this&#8230; they can&#8217;t afford their meager bills and the wife told me she doesn&#8217;t even like her husband, but he is &#8220;<em>hers</em>&#8221; so they might as well have a kid.. <em>OMFG</em> don&#8217;t even get me started on those two idiots&#8230; they believe drinking Mountain Dew is a good method of birth control! Seriously, WTF!)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any specific numbers, but it seems that educated, intelligent people are having less children in Europe and America. While less educated, (more religious?),  lower income people (I don&#8217;t know a politically correct term that would be better to use. So try not to be offended, ok?) are having more kids. I know that Europe has been dwindling in population, especially in Germany, Italy and other countries. And muslim people are filling up the ghost towns, then immediately going on the Dole over there. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve heard, but I don&#8217;t have hard data. (that&#8217;s from NPR, from a year ago, so maybe things are different now. But I don&#8217;t listen to NPR anymore). Pat Condell is always talking about such things too.</p>
<p>I never saw the movie, Idiocracy. It looked really dumb, but the concept is what I&#8217;m talking about. It&#8217;s more about I.Q. though, and I&#8217;m also talking about education and belief systems. If more atheists raise their children to be freethinkers and critical thinkers, imagine what the next generation would be like instead of what I see when we go out these days?</p>
<p>Since when did it become &#8220;cool&#8221; to be ignorant? That makes me stark raving crazy mad. I know of only 2 teenagers who seem to value intelligence and they are in my family. Maybe I sound old and crotchety, I don&#8217;t know. It just seems that teenagers are having babies, and that everyone is purposefully embracing ignorance and mindlessness.</p>
<p>In my day&#8230; (just kidding&#8230; but seriously, in my day, it wasn&#8217;t like this!)</p>
<p>Ok, it&#8217;s getting a bit late, the weekend has been really long, and I&#8217;m tired. But I wanted to thank the man for thinking I&#8217;d make a good parent. I know I&#8217;d raise my kids to be freethinking individuals, even though it&#8217;s not very cool.</p>
<p>Maybe you out there can chime in. Are you raising your children to be critical thinkers? How is that going? I imagine with the societal influences and poor education system it must be tough. Then again, am I just out of touch since I&#8217;m not a parent? Or did you do what my husband and I did? Did you decide for whatever reason that it would be best not to have kids? As always, I look forward to your thoughts!</p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/09/23/what-are-you-doing-november-19/" title="What Are You Doing November 19? (September 23, 2009)">What Are You Doing November 19?</a> (10)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/12/13/lions/" title="We Are Lions! (December 13, 2008)">We Are Lions!</a> (4)</li>
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		<title>Random Thoughts About Human Impact On Evolution</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_darwin" target="_blank"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1231" title="Charles Darwin" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/l_b35beaad8cf960c209754e1b9bdef3d31-296x450.gif" alt="Charles Darwin" width="212" height="323" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_darwin" target="_blank">Charles Darwin</a> celebrated his 200th birthday February 12 of this year. So of course many of the science podcasts I listen to, as well as many of the science and skeptic sites I visit, have been talking about evolution and Darwin and all that good stuff. Evolution is often paraphrased as the term, survival of the fittest, which is inaccurate. Here is how Dictionary.com defines it, as well as some other terms, just so we&#8217;re all on the same page:</p>
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<li><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=survival%20of%20the%20fittest&#38;db=luna" target="_blank">Survival of the Fittest</a><br />
a 19th-century concept of human society, inspired by the principle of natural selection, postulating that those who are eliminated in the struggle for existence are the unfit.</li>
<li><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Natural+selection" target="_blank">Natural Selection</a><br />
n.   The process in nature by which, according to Darwin&#8217;s theory of evolution, only the organisms best adapted to their environment tend to survive and transmit their genetic characteristics in increasing numbers to succeeding [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_darwin" target="_blank">Charles Darwin</a> celebrated his 200th birthday February 12 of this year. So of course many of the science podcasts I listen to, as well as many of the science and skeptic sites I visit, have been talking about evolution and Darwin and all that good stuff. Evolution is often paraphrased as the term, survival of the fittest, which is inaccurate. Here is how Dictionary.com defines it, as well as some other terms, just so we&#8217;re all on the same page:</p>
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<li><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=survival%20of%20the%20fittest&amp;db=luna" target="_blank">Survival of the Fittest</a><br />
a 19th-century concept of human society, inspired by the principle of natural selection, postulating that those who are eliminated in the struggle for existence are the unfit.</li>
<li><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Natural+selection" target="_blank">Natural Selection</a><br />
n.   The process in nature by which, according to Darwin&#8217;s theory of evolution, only the organisms best adapted to their environment tend to survive and transmit their genetic characteristics in increasing numbers to succeeding generations while those less adapted tend to be eliminated.</li>
<li><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolution" target="_blank">Evolution</a><br />
<em>Biology</em>. change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.</li>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been slowly forming some random thoughts regarding the human population and evolution and I thought I&#8217;d write them down. Your input would be most welcome, as usual.<span id="more-1230"></span></p>
<p>I heard on The Naked Scientists ( podcast number or which exact one, I&#8217;m not sure) recently that humans aren&#8217;t really evolving and haven&#8217;t for the last couple of thousand years or so. Chris, the Naked Scientist, was talking about something else so it was one of those explanations for something else, not the topic of conversation. So he didn&#8217;t go into detail.</p>
<p>My ears perked up though because I&#8217;ve been vaguely wondering about human evolution in the past several thousand years. Mainly because humans seem to do things backwards from the rest of nature. Or we seem to do that lately in our history.</p>
<p>For instance, we take care of the old and sick, to the point that otherwise frail and less than hearty people are able to reproduce, and to reproduce much longer into older age than ever before. This is when a woman&#8217;s eggs may have more genetic defects in them. Which is why women who are pregnant over a certain age are encouraged to get tested for genetic defects more than younger women are.</p>
<p>I have an aunt who was born with a serious birth defect &#8211; spina bifida. She needed countless surgeries over her childhood, and several in her adulthood as well. She ended up getting married and having a child, which even a hundred years ago would not have been possible.</p>
<p>There are huge differences in child mortality and survival throughout the world even today, based on availability of medical care, basic nutrition and other factors. But even 100 years ago the infant mortality rate was higher, right? What was it 2,000 years ago when medical care was rudimentary at best?</p>
<p>So what does this do to the gene pool and to human evolution?</p>
<p>I was talking to my friend Jeff about this yesterday and he made a comment that we are evolving, just with machines now. But I would suggest that&#8217;s not the same thing. It certainly doesn&#8217;t fall into the biological definition of evolution. I&#8217;m not saying that we aren&#8217;t evolving at all. But we seem to have stalled at least. Instead of natural selection within the human race, we have technology of all different sorts to compensate for whatever lack of genetic strength we may have.</p>
<p>This could be as simple as red headed people living in the Mediterranean. They don&#8217;t need to get sunburned and get skin cancer because they can wear sunblock and protective clothing and stay indoors more. Or a child can be born with asthma, something that would have shortened her life long ago, perhaps. Instead while she may take medication and change her lifestyle a bit, she can grow up to have children, who may also be prone to asthma.</p>
<p>Did you see that movie, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K7VHOG?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=zenswor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B000K7VHOG">Idiocracy</a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=zenswor-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=B000K7VHOG" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />? I didn&#8217;t watch it because, well, it looked really dumb. But the concept is interesting and is something I see in my life nowadays, to a small degree. The premise of the movie, from what I gathered, is that smart people stop having children so only stupid people have kids, giving birth to dumber and dumber people, until everyone is idiotic. I don&#8217;t know about that idea. Because both my husband and I are way smarter than our parents. But I do see people who can barely function in society having kids while smart people make the decision to refrain from reproducing.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another point. Let&#8217;s talk about fishing. I&#8217;ve been hearing about how we fish and hunt. Humans take the biggest and strongest animals and fish from the population in huge numbers. Now, when it comes to cattle and poultry, we raise what we want to eat. But for fish we still get them from the wild in a lot of cases. The impact on those populations has actually caused the fish to evolve, but in a reverse sort of way.</p>
<p>There was this study published recently which I heard about. Basically they took this population of fish and treated them as if they were being fished as is common practice today &#8211; taking the biggest, leaving the smallest. After 12 years they found that the fish had to adapt and start reproducing earlier than they used to. This has a negative impact on the population, which then affects what is available for us to harvest.</p>
<p>In the wild a lion will target the weak and the young, which makes sense. But we don&#8217;t do that. We go for the biggest and strongest, leaving the young and weak. We seem to do it backwards. Which seems like it&#8217;s bad for the rest of the environment.</p>
<p>The good news is that this reverse evolution can be reversed. I found the fishing study. Here&#8217;s a link: <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090303193950.htm" target="_blank">&#8216;Undesirable&#8217; Evolution Can Be Reversed In Fish, By Letting The Big Ones Go</a></p>
<p>Those are just some ideas I&#8217;ve been knocking around in my head. Your thoughts are welcome, as usual.</p>

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	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/02/12/religion-is-the-path-of-least-resistance/" title="Religion is the Path of Least Resistance (February 12, 2009)">Religion is the Path of Least Resistance</a> (2)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2010/02/08/evolution-before-darwin/" title="Evolution Before Darwin (February 8, 2010)">Evolution Before Darwin</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/12/19/conversation-with-anne-about-the-meaning-of-life/" title="Conversation with Anne About The Meaning Of Life (December 19, 2009)">Conversation with Anne About The Meaning Of Life</a> (0)</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2009/09/23/what-are-you-doing-november-19/" title="What Are You Doing November 19? (September 23, 2009)">What Are You Doing November 19?</a> (10)</li>
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		<title>Let&#8217;s Stop Coddling The Ignorant</title>
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<p>You know, this seems to be a serious point of contention these days. The majority of sheeple toddling around on their cell phones, driving their SUV&#8217;s, barely doing their jobs, letting TVs raise their kids, all seem to be proud of their ignorance in different areas. Here are just a few:</p>
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<li>Philosophy (in this sense I am referring to morality, beliefs, etc)</li>
<li>Science</li>
<li>Math</li>
<li>Computers</li>
<li>Critical Thinking, Logic and Reason</li>
<li>Finance and Banking</li>
<li>The Concept of Responsibility</li>
</ul>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not all saying we need to be Socrates, Einstein, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, a brain surgeon and a rocket scientist all rolled into one. But understanding the world around us is pretty important. Also how we think and what we believe is critical to how we make decisions. It&#8217;s also important to understand that even if we&#8217;re ignorant of something, we can still be personally responsible for [...]]]></description>
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<p>You know, this seems to be a serious point of contention these days. The majority of sheeple toddling around on their cell phones, driving their SUV&#8217;s, barely doing their jobs, letting TVs raise their kids, all seem to be proud of their ignorance in different areas. Here are just a few:</p>
<ul>
<li>Philosophy (in this sense I am referring to morality, beliefs, etc)</li>
<li>Science</li>
<li>Math</li>
<li>Computers</li>
<li>Critical Thinking, Logic and Reason</li>
<li>Finance and Banking</li>
<li>The Concept of Responsibility</li>
</ul>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not all saying we need to be Socrates, Einstein, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, a brain surgeon and a rocket scientist all rolled into one. But understanding the world around us is pretty important. Also how we think and what we believe is critical to how we make decisions. It&#8217;s also important to understand that even if we&#8217;re ignorant of something, we can still be personally responsible for our actions.</p>
<p>My parents weren&#8217;t very good at raising kids, to be honest. But my grandparents (on summer vacations) and public school took the time to teach me basic manners, a bit of common sense, the concept of cause and effect, personal responsibility for my behavior, basic money handling, and I got a good foundation in science and math at school as well.</p>
<p>I sometimes deal with younger people and they don&#8217;t seem to have any respect for knowledge, information or learning. They seem to refuse to be personally responsible. And the idea of thinking logically is as alien as an 8 track tape player.</p>
<p>When did it become cool to be so freaking ignorant? When did everyone collectively stop thinking for themselves? I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s just the youth of today, but I know many people my age and even older that refuse to think about their own belief systems or how they see the world. Most people are quite content to let a priest or pastor tell them what their morals are.<span id="more-1226"></span></p>
<p>And if someone is any older than me, they are proud to eschew technology when it suits them. They refuse to learn to understand their computers. Yet they all still use their cell phones while driving their big SUVs.</p>
<p>Is it all about convenience? The lowest common denominator thinking? I know that&#8217;s how TV is these days. It&#8217;s the sludge that has settled to the bottom that seems to sell the best so that&#8217;s what&#8217;s served up and dished out to people. And they eat it up! Then again, I watched Three&#8217;s Company and the Dukes of Hazzard, so maybe I can&#8217;t talk. But back then that&#8217;s all there was. <em>Now</em> what&#8217;s our excuse?</p>
<p>I see the way things have gone for the past few years, and then recently with all those ridiculous bailouts. We just keep rewarding people and corporations and CEO&#8217;s for failing. We accept their lame blaming excuses and then hand them whatever they want with extra whipped cream on top.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand. It seems like a slippery slope of irresponsibility and cultivated ignorance. Can it ever stop? Is it like some perverse form of reverse evolution? How can we become a society of happy, responsible, empathetic, intelligent, thoughtful people?</p>
<p>Ha! I know&#8230; I&#8217;m crazy for even thinking such radical ideas!</p>

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		<title>Penn and Teller, Bullshit!</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheisgod</dc:creator>
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<p>Creationism</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkWeONGjipQ">Part 1<br />
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVU_VJQmKI">Part 2</a><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWK4vmS-6bM">Part 3</a><br />
</p>
<p>Holier than Thou</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41NYwGK_nFM">Part 1</a><br />
</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_P3_zv1_mI">Part 2</a><br />
</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKKzkdoZfdM">Part 3</a><br />
</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="center;"><a href="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/penn-and-teller-bullshit.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-577 aligncenter" src="http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/penn-and-teller-bullshit.jpg" alt="" width="297" height="305" /></a></p>
<p>Creationism</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkWeONGjipQ">Part 1<br />
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVU_VJQmKI">Part 2</a><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWK4vmS-6bM">Part 3</a><br />
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<p>Holier than Thou</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41NYwGK_nFM">Part 1</a><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_P3_zv1_mI">Part 2</a><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKKzkdoZfdM">Part 3</a><br />
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