I know it’s Spring and no one wants to be thinking of christmas this time of year, but my friend Joe sent me a paper called Ho, Ho, Hoax: The Case against Santa Claus by Ernâni Magalhães, Visiting Assistant Professor at WVU. It makes some excellent points which really got me thinking.

Before I read this paper, I thought Dale McGowan‘s take on Santa to be the best way to handle it. In a nutshell, he says Santa is a dry run for letting kids reason their way through the fact that Santa is a myth, to then figuring out that religion is mythical, as he puts it, Santa is “the ultimate dry run for a developing inquiring mind”. It makes sense in a way. But then my friend Joe told me about his experience as a kid.

Joe really believed in Santa, the Easter Bunny, etc. Then one day a kid in the playground told him it was all a pack of lies. Joe believed him and went home crying. He was devastated. When Joe and I talked about the McGowan philosophy of Santa, I figured out that in theory it seems like a great idea, but maybe in practice it could backfire and cause a lot of unhappiness and pain for kids who don’t get to reason it out for themselves but are told by other children.

And is it necessary to lie to children about a mythical jolly old fat man? Does it increase their happiness, improve their moral fiber? Does it make them better little people, or better adults down the line? And is there an alternative to lying about Santa?

First, there are 3 alternatives, according to Ernâni:

  • Disbelief: The parent tells the child Santa Claus is not real
  • Neutrality: The parent does not inform the child one way or the other
  • Pretense: The parent invites the child to pretend there is a Santa Claus.(page 13)

…inviting to pretend there is a Santa Claus is morally superior to encouraging to believe. (14)

I never thought of this as an option, but it makes sense. You get all the good fun of Santa but you don’t get the lies and beliefs in those lies.

What about short term pleasure and pain? Here is what Ernâni has to say:

The extent to which the pleasure of children and adults justifies the Santa Claus lie depends on the amount of pleasure available from non-deceitful alternatives. The alternative that most closely replicates telling children there is a Santa Claus involves inviting children to pretend there is one. Although pretending something is real is fundamentally different from believing it is, as I have argued, many of the emotions evoked by an object believed to be real are also evoked by objects supposed to be fictional. Children and adults derive great pleasure from creatures of their imaginations, as witnessed by the large crowds at movie theaters. Children who are old enough to know she is fictional still derive great enjoyment from the pretense that Cinderella is a real person with real hopes. And, it is easy to replicate the gift-giving aspect of the Santa experience, which is surely a significant factor in the child’s enjoyment. (15-16)

Interesting and thought-provoking, don’t you think? This is even more important: Read the rest of this entry »

So what would it take for me, a 7th degree black belt atheist, to believe in God? I’ve been thinking about this lately. Here’s what I’ve come up with so far.

1. God would have to personally reveal himself to me and correctly answer every question I throw at him.

2. God would have to reveal himself to every person on Earth at the same time, in a way that doesn’t make us all think we are suffering from some type of mass psychosis or delusion. Otherwise I might think I was just hallucinating.

3. God would have to demonstrate his power. He’d have to cure me and bring me to total health and fitness, end all suffering in the world instantly (after proclaiming to everyone that he would do so), end all wars, etc.

4. He would have to demonstrate his superior intelligence, and have an answer to every question that we have. He would have to have good answers for all of his stupid past behavior.

5. He would have to predict the future, in rigorous scientific experiments, with 100% accuracy.

6. He would have to bend the laws of physics and the natural world, but only in rigorous scientific experiments.

As you can see, I still won’t have blind faith. I would require testable, repeatable evidence in massive quantities to believe. In this sense, I wouldn’t “believe” so much as accept the evidence that would be available.

Now, if I believed in him, would I worship him? That’s a separate issue. I don’t think so, not the god of the bible. He’s a hateful, childish, vengeful, jealous, petty god with anger issues. I think I’d say thanks but no thanks. I require more godliness and love to actually worship anything. I also require a god that actually does good and not harm.

So what are your thoughts? I know my list isn’t complete. What else would you require to believe in God? And if you believed in him, what would it take for you to worship him?

A person named Paul commented on HDC on GMNightmare’s deconversion story and I thought they were interesting questions. Both Johnny and GMNightmare already gave long answers, also worth noting, instead of letting it get lost in comments. And I added my 2 cents on at the bottom. :)

Here is Paul’s comment:

I have a couple of questions that I would like answered, and you seem like the type to answer questions. First of all, what are your thoughts on supernatural phenomena (weird stuff people claim happens, i.e., someone’s ear being cut off, and growing back on)? Is it all just a big hoax?

Secondly, I know that evolution details how the earth came to it’s present state, and the big bang, (do they still call it that?) started all that, but what could have caused the big bang? And how did whatever caused the big bang come into existence? As far as I know, science clearly states that nothing can be infinite, and all things have an end and a beginning. So, if nothing is infinite, than how did the universe get started? Wouldn’t something had to have caused time to exist first, something that wasn’t governed by time, and so couldn’t even be described by adjectives like infinite?

I just have these questions, and no one can really answer them, except with some lame thing like “It just goes on and on”. And what does happen when we die? I know our bodies clearly decompose, we can see that much easily.

But what about our consciousness? It seems to me that consciousness is somewhat of a mystery in and of itself. Scientists can make a body, and they can put blood and oxygen in it, but yet they can’t make it live? So, if a consciousness isn’t something like a body, something that decomposes, what happens when the consciousness dies? Does it really just cease to exist? I can’t even imagine not existing. It just seems so foreign, to not exist.

Lastly, I don’t really get the term “gnostic atheist”. From what I’ve read, gnostics claim to “know” something, that other people don’t. So, if you’re a gnostic atheist, does that just mean that you “know” hands down, that there is not, and has never been, any kind of god?

First, here is Johnny’s reply:

I’m sure GMN will have a response; but I just feel the desire to chime in. Read the rest of this entry »

Skeptical thinking is such a wonderful tool to have. It means you don’t get scammed or BS’ed nearly as much by shoddy news or dodgy advertising. You also get to save money because you’ll be less apt to buy gimmicky cure-alls that do nothing but drain your wallet and give you false hope. In his book, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, Carl Sagan wrote about this. It’s called the Baloney Detection Kit. (see below for an excerpt)

Michael Shermer recently made a great companion video talking about The Baloney Detection Kit: (approx. 14 min)

Here are the 10 points from the video: Read the rest of this entry »

So, I’m far from original, but the title of this article is so appropriate. The blessed virgin mary of guadalupe has appeared! All hail mother mary! Of course, she’s here to share a miracle (miracle yet to be noticed) and she wants us to pay attention… to the bird shit on this truck.

“As soon as I looked at it, it just gave me chills all over my body!”

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Ha, as much as I would like to take credit for this beauty…

It’s by Wayne Adkins:

There is no God. How could I just make an assertion like that? Why wouldn’t I say “I believe there is no God” or “I don’t believe there is a God”? After all, I am making a negative assertion, an assertion that something does not exist. To prove that something does exist, one need only provide a single example of a things existence. But, we are often told, to prove a negative assertion, an assertion that something does not exist, one must conduct an exhaustive search of the universe or have complete knowledge of everything. So to prove God does not exist, we are often told, one must possess god-like abilities. This is rubbish. A negative assertion can be proven.

Take the case of square circles. I can claim with confidence that square circles do not exist. I don’t need to conduct an exhaustive search of the universe or be omniscient to prove this. Just a basic understanding of squares and circles is all that is required. From my basic understanding of squares and circles I can reason that squares and circles are, by definition, contradictory shapes which cannot exist in a single entity. No genius level intellect is required. No omniscience is required. Negative assertions can be proven by demonstrating that whatever is being proposed contains contradictory attributes which cannot exist in the same entity. Read the rest of this entry »

I was raised Seventh-Day Adventist (SDA) early in my childhood. My mother’s side of the family is fairly traditional SDA; my mother was raised in it, and my father converted for her. I went to the SDA church school for first through third grade. Even at that age I stirred up trouble: my teacher told us the moon landing was faked because man can not reach space where heaven and god reside; and that dinosaurs were fake, they were just a pile of cow bones that scientists put together wrong. When I argued with her I was sent to the principal’s office; when he backed her I pretty much stopped believing everything they told me. That’s were my skepticism started.

During that time I was also taught that all other religions were wrong, and those practicing other religions were going to hell; something at the time I found utterly ridiculous, and something I’ve since discovered to be common theory among many religions. I overheard church leaders describe the evils that public school taught, pushing fear upon parents so that they would pay to send their children to the private Adventist school. I saw prejudice against people for not dressing nice enough when coming to church and others extensively questioned about their absence from church the week prior.

My father was not raised in the church; he refused to follow blindly and he questioned things. Adventists do not drink alcohol or eat meat; when my father queried about Jesus drinking wine and eating lamb, the church elders insisted that the wine was really grape juice and the lamb was only used for sacrifice and not really eaten. Another time my father shared a song with some from the church, the song was modern and up-tempo and had a very uplifting message with Christian innuendo. The elders were upset with my father for exposing people in the church to something so evil; in their opinion drums were an instrument that led to evil music, and the upbeat tempo could lead to dancing -something they would not allow because they linked dancing to idol worship.

My father enrolled my brothers and me in public school for my fourth grade year. Around the same time he stopped attending church; but my mother continued to take us kids. Not long after the elders approached my mother and advised her to consider divorce because of the evil influence her husband was having on her children. My mother stopped going to that church, and even after changing membership to a different SDA church did not attend as regularly anymore.

I tried again in high school. Although I had quite thoroughly rejected Adventism, some part of me had some faith left and wanted to believe. I was hanging out with some friends who often hung around the youth pastor from an Evangelical church. This was my first exposure to a church leader that was actually educated. He encouraged me to question the church and its teachings, and to question the Bible. This along with more modern teaching and a social aspect reeled me in; I spent over two years as a member and was baptized. The more time I spent in the church, the more I discovered that all the questions I had been encouraged to ask were answered with innuendo, or answered in ways that created even more questions, or just not answered at all. Towards the end of my senior year of high school I had become disenchanted, and continued to attend only for the socialization.

On a side note, a story I tell to illustrate the ignorance of some religions, and to remind me how lucky I was to escape the Adventist church. During high school I worked with a lady that was a Seventh-Day Adventist; she shared with me a problem they were having at the church school: pregnancy. In a student body of 40, they had five girls under age 18 that were pregnant. Here’s what it boiled down to: sex was such a taboo subject that they did not provide any sex education (not even ‘abstinence’); and since reproduction involved sex, the basic science of how reproduction occurs was not taught either (not even how animals reproduce). These kids were essentially being taught that they could not have children unless they were married; but as we all know science and nature don’t follow rules like this.

Once I left for college I tried out a handful of churches in a new city. Each seemed worse than the previous, and I became completely disenchanted. I finally came up with my own little quote that I used to answer friends and family that pressured me about attending church: “The Bible and my faith are enough for me; organized religion is a farce and the church is antiquated and corrupt.” This spurred a few conversations but was mostly met with silence and no further argument.

Some college courses, an exposure to the larger world, and a stint in the Army drew me to more and more conclusions that the church is a control mechanism. By the time I was getting off active duty (2004) I had pretty much lost all faith, but still wasn’t sure what I believed in. I honestly think I might have been an atheist at this point, but was not familiar with the term; and in hindsight I think I didn’t know that not believing was an option. I did some soul-searching-reading – eastern religions, pagan beliefs, lots of mythology, and a little on the origins of Christianity and Islam.

In early 2006 I saw the Zeitgeist movie; I don’t recommend it, but I mention it because it played a role in my final steps to realized atheism. The banking part of the movie is a bit conspiracy theory, and the nine-eleven part is over-the-top conspiracy; but it was the part on religion that fascinated me. I spent several weeks researching the information (because it doesn’t cite any sources), and re-watched the religious part of the movie a dozen times. Eventually I determined that many of the “facts” were wrong or unsourcable; but the research I did lifted any remnants of a veil.

Looking back, I know that at this point I was an atheist; but it took until early 2008 for me to really admit it to myself. I finally had interpreted that nagging feeling that had been plaguing me: I didn’t believe in any gods (but most specifically Yahweh). Suddenly (or so it seemed) I was free! The realization that it was an option, and that it was how I felt freed me on so many levels. I am an atheist! When I disclosed this to my wife I was shocked by her reply (we had never talked religion). She had not believed in gods since she was 14, but had never really considered herself an atheist (because of some of the conflict with the term).

The more research I’ve done, the more I see that the church and organized religion are relics of the past (I truly think organized religion is what is holding mankind back from that next big leap and from any hope at world peace). Many of the organized [Christian] churches we see today draw their roots from England in a time when the government controlled the church and the church controlled the people. The people that left that oppression and thus began the founding of the United States left there to escape the government controlling their church and religious choices. Today I believe we’ve seen too much swing in the opposite direction from what the founders intended; the church has too much influence and control in government decisions.

I believe that in the modern world there is no place for the church as we know it. There may be a place for religion; everyone is entitled their faith, belief, and opinion (but should not be allowed to push it upon others). The church we know today is corrupt, hypocritical, meddles in politics, sparks wars, and presses its prejudices on the populace and even into law. Religion has become the root of all evil; and the church is its right hand.

I’m ok with people’s belief in a higher power or deity on an individual level. What annoys me is when people feel the need to unintelligently push their belief and their deity upon me. What worries me is when so many people believe in this deity that they band together against those who don’t believe the same. What scares me is when those who believe in this deity rise to power, and then use that power for the cause of their deity. And what disgusts me is when people can validate hate, killing, and war in the name of their deity; and most reproachful are those who war because their enemy believes in a different deity or no deity at all.

I don’t consider myself a militant atheist; and I try hard not to proselytize atheism. However I find an overwhelming drive to push people to question what religion and the church has told them. Question what they think is in the Bible. And for all that, why stop with religion? Question everything; but don’t be an ignorant skeptic, after you’ve questioned it, research it. Arm yourself with knowledge!

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JohnnyI’m absolutely thrilled to be a part of Heaving Dead Cats! About the time I admitted my atheism to myself, I added the atheist tag in my StumbleUpon. This added to my knowledge of atheism exponentially; and HDC was one of those sites I stumbled early on. I’ve been lurking here ever since, and feel truly honored to be a contributor. If you’re interested, you can find some of my other ramblings on Think Atheist; and if you have questions you can email me at phxjohnny+HDC@gmail.com.

~Johnny